Re: Your Favorite Install Tool?

["Crash Gordon" <webmaster@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

You use the tubes because of the insulation.
You drill the 3/8" holes with a long 6 foot flexible drill bit.
You keep from killing yourself by electrocution and drill holes through your
roof by experience.

Not using the zip it rod, using the glow rods which are thinner and more
flexible. Or the flexible fiberglass fishtape...once you've worked your way
above the ceiling batting you're home-free...sorta...usually.


Kinda works like the new IV needles which have a plastic sleeve that remains
in your vein after metal needle is removed.


"Sylvain Robitaille" <syl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
news:slrndlrcga.85ge.syl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
| alarman wrote:
|
| > They're made out of 5/16" tubing cut to 30-36" lengths. Slip a glow
| > rod into the tubing, ...
|
| Hrmmm...  I suspect I'm not picturing this correctly, but it's very
| likely only because I've never seen it done before.
|
| bdolph suggested the "creep-zit" push/pull rods, whose value I can
| imagine in what are probably mostly ideal conditions, but given that
| wiring holes in any of the framing in my house don't appear to have been
| drilled in any straight lines, I'm not sure how well they would work
| (for me) in practice.
|
| > ... and push it up through the 3/8" hole in the window frame.  When
| > the works hits the roof, remove the glow rod.
|
| These are definitely contributing to my confusion.  I _know_ that the
| problem is that I'm not picturing this correctly, but I hope you can
| help clear it up for me.  There's a 3/8" hole in the window frame?
| (perhaps you put it there, and I simply haven't understood that?)
|
| You're pushing this tubing/glow-rod assembly (are the rods similar to
| the "creep-zit" rods pointed to by bdolph?) up an outside wall from the
| top (?) of a window frame into the attic?  Are you perhaps dealing with
| buildings that don't have any insulation in the outside walls?  (I just
| can't imagine this in my outside walls, without imagining damaging the
| insulation, but again, I wouldn't be surprised to be told that I'm
| suffering simply from lack of experience ...)
|
| > Now you can twist the tube back and forth while you push up slightly.
| > Usually the tube follows the roof line and slides right past the
| > insulation in the attic.
|
| But there's a header (at least I believe that's what framing folks would
| call it) where the wall and ceiling/attic/roof framing meet, no?
| (perhaps you drilled another hole in this header, when I wasn't looking?
| ;-)
|
| > Now you have a chase through which you can feed your wire.
|
| The value of this I can understand and appreciate.  I've done enough
| wiring (professionally for audio and lighting system installations, and
| personally for telephone and computer networking, as well as AC wiring)
| to appreciate its value, but I clearly haven't done enough to understand
| how you're achieving it.  Is the tubing the same as flexible electrical
| conduit?
|
| > I usually pull 8 - 10 doors/windows at a time-minimizes the time I
| > spend in the attic.
|
| Another aspect I can fully understand and appreciate.  :-)
|
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| Sylvain Robitaille                              syl@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
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| Systems and Network analyst                       Concordia University
| Instructional & Information Technology        Montreal, Quebec, Canada
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