Re: ARE YOU REALLY BEING MONITORED? READ THIS

["Joe Lucia" <joe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Sonicduck wrote:
> To:  JSloud
>
> You said,"...First of all, ADT does not have humans dialing into alarm...
>
> My response:  First of all, I never said a human "dials into a system".
>  The human is the one sending a notification of failure, or making the
> phone call.

Central Stations might have an auto-dialer testing their own Receiver
llines.  Maybe you misheard the information you are giving?

Let's just pretend you were correct about the C/S calling your
customers panel to verify it was still there...  How does the customers
panel know it's the Central Station calling?  How many rings does it
answer after?  What does the customer hear during this "incoming call"?
 Wouldn't the customer hear their phone ring every day, possibly at 2am
while sleeping, and get a little irritated?  If you're going to stick
with your story, you are going to need to provide some details.

> 2nd:  You only mentioned commercial fire alarms, and the requirement to
> conduct a timer test.  What about the residential alarms?  Why did you
> purposely omit that little tidbit of information.

There are no "requirements" for residential.  I've seen mostly weekly
tests on residential accounts.

> 3rd:  A Brinks salesman once told a prospect that I was visiting that
> they did not need a cell backup.  The customer asked him why.  His
> response was, "because we willknow the moment your lines are cut or
> your system is offline.  I asked him if we could conduct a little test.
>  I took him to the panel, disconnected the phone line from the panel,
> and went back to my presentation.  Ten minutes passed, and no call.  20
> minutes passed and no call.  The 30 minues and finally before wrapping
> up the sale (and I did sell it), I told the customer that what I had
> done was disconnect the phone line, which was the same as a burgular
> cutting the lines.

Did you unplug the alarm from the RJ jack?  That's not like cutting the
line, that's just eliminating the alarm panel from the line.  There's a
difference.

>I told the customer that if the Brinks salesman was
> correct, then they should have gotten a phone call within a minute of
> the line being disconnected.  I also told the customer that in that
> half hour, The whole house could have been ransacked, and they could
> have been hurt.  They saw the light, and the lie.  But, I don;t know
> anything, huh?  right?

If they "saw the light" then it must have been you Wacking them on the
head.  Obviously if you had the phone line unplugged, and if it WAS
supervised the way the Brinks guy said (which it's not), then they
would have realized that the C/S couldn't call them to tell them the
phone line was out because THE PHONE LINE WAS UNPLUGGED!

You sound more and more like an un-informed SALES person and really
shouldn't be posting in a TECHNICAL forum.  Any non-professionals who
are looking for useful information should regard your post as a slimy
sales tactic.

My apologies to those seeking knowledge.  That is not it.