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Re: Project for hotel security -- might be something for CHA gurus



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So you're saying mounting a camera on top of a 20mm Gatlin gun and using =
a motion detector for detection may be a bad idea? Damn, I really =
thought I had a good idea for an added WhiteWater defense system....
Actually, professor....I wasn't telling you all to run out and buy some =
of these devices and install them. Rather that someone (some company) =
which I believe was either in Europe or Asia, had developed this into a =
Pan/Tilt Camera.
You'd be liable if the purp tripped at the doorway, fell over, and broke =
his nose on the chip rack.
I could share a few stories of "Dead fall traps" which were, and are =
perfectly legal. But as you pointed out, a liability still exists, and =
it is not worth the actual effort, nor an explanation.
I agree with your statement. (Legally) Personally......I can neither =
confirm nor deny....
  "J Baber" <jim@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message =
news:q6WdnXCWkoF92dHfRVn-rg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Jim Replys:
      You would be completely liable for any and all injuries the might =
or might not be suffered by an intruder because of such a device. It =
would be considered by the laws of all the states in the US just as if =
it were any other such device.  Such "DEAD FALL TRAPS" are definitely =
illegal.

  Jackcsg wrote:

Hey, believe it or not, there is a company which designs a device that =
can
project tasers, and even a propellant gas to knock out the intruders. A
buddy of mine sent me the link once, and I thought he was FOS, unit I =
saw
the unit. It's actually built in to a camera housing, and can rotate =
around
for firing the deterrent. I'll try to find the link. They were looking =
to
patent this device, and actually showed a video from a C-Store of it's
operation............--=20

Jim Baber


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which designs a device that can
project tasers, and even a propellant gas to knock out the intruders. A
buddy of mine sent me the link once, and I thought he was FOS, unit I =
saw
the unit. It's actually built in to a camera housing, and can rotate =
around
for firing the deterrent. I'll try to find the link. They were looking =
to
patent this device, and actually showed a video from a C-Store of it's
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