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Re: Flourescent kills X10
Interesting idea Dave, but I don't think there is room. The Miller choke is
about 1/2 inch diameter by 1 1/2 inches long. There may be smaller torrid
chokes available. Something to consider is that the 1000 uH choke is only
rated for 1A. That's ample for a CF bulb. But any modified appliance
module would have to be identified so it isn't used for another purpose.
Along a similar line, I have modified floor and table lamps for screw-in
compact fluorescents driven by an appliance module. I just snipped the hot
lead inside the base of the lamp, wired a choke in series, and encased
everything in shrink sleeving. But I used the 125 uH choke (3.5A) for these
applications in case someone put in normal high wattage bulbs in the future.
"Dave Houston" <nobody@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> Could the choke go inside the appliance module?
> "Jeff Volp" <JeffVolp@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >Sorry you are frustrated with X10, but it CAN be a reliable system. It
> >take some planning and management to keep it reliable.
> >We use a bunch of compact fluorescents in ceiling cans to save energy.
> >are controlled with Leviton 16293 relay X10 switches. To prevent
> >problems, I included Leviton 6287 noise blocks in line between the
> >and the ceiling cans. These filters are small enough to fit in the back
> >the switch boxes.
> >Unfortunately, the solution is not quite as easy with an appliance
> >Years ago I ran into your problem when compact fluorescents first came
> >The Lights of America CF bulbs had a filter capacitor directly across the
> >power input. That killed any X10 signal on that circuit. I you are
> >into a similar problem.
> >The solution was fairly easy. I ordered some Miller 1000 uH Hash Chokes
> >from Digikey and wired them in series with the bulb center contact. You
> >probably do the same with your under cabinet light. Just wire the choke
> >line between the "hot" input line and the circuitry. Be sure to well
> >insulate the choke with shrink tubing to prevent any possible contact to
> >We use X10 here for all lighting, sprinkler control, hot water
> >recirculation, and exhaust fans. With hundreds of X10 commands sent
> >we see a missed command perhaps once a month. Not 100% reliable, but
> >certainly better than 99%.
> >With some care, it should work fine for you too.
> >"kviator" <kviator@xxxxxxxxx> wrote in message
> >> These flourescent lights are high-end, 13 watt, quick start lights for
> >> under counter use. I'm not sure that replacing the bulbs would make
> >> much difference, but I may try as a last resort.
> >> I guess I was looking for something like some sort a band-pass filter
> >> or something that I can put in the up-stream outlet that will bypass
> >> the flourescent light when on and pass the X10 signal down-stream to
> >> the next outlet.
> >> Any other ideas? Maybe my macro idea is the only practical solution.
> >> Thanks,
> >> Keith
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