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Re: Re: xPL newbie (still!) needs help with xPL_HomeVision (detecting variable chang



Sure Can

Frank

----- Original Message -----
From: "fondlezz" <amkilgore@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 10:22 AM
Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPL newbie (still!) needs help with xPL_HomeVision
(detecting variable chang


>
> Hmmmm, can you send me your version (offlist)...?
>
> Thanks,
> Andy.
>
> --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc Alinden"
<frankmc@i...> wrote:
> > Hi Andy
> >
> >             Im using 4.4.0.7  might be an idea to go to steves
site
> and get
> > the latest version.....
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "fondlezz" <amkilgore@n...>
> > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 5:41 AM
> > Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPL newbie (still!) needs help with
> xPL_HomeVision
> > (detecting variable chang
> >
> >
> > > --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc Alinden"
<frankmc@i...>
> wrote:
> > > > Hi Andy
> > > >
> > > Hi Frank,
> > >
> > > Just on the off-chance, what version of xPLHVision.exe do
you have...?
> > > Mine is 4.4.0.9 (4.04.0009)...
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Andy.
> > >
> > > > > This is my problem, xPL-HVISION doesn't seem to
notice the
> variable
> > > > > change until I manually "Resync" it.
> > > >
> > > > Strange......I got a periodic event running every 5
minutes which
> > > decrements
> > > > or reloads  a variable and its reporting ok........
> > > >
> > > > It works fine with variables which have been deleted
from the
> > > EXclude file
> > > > and doesnt report any variable that are not removed
from the Exclude
> > > file
> > > > (as expected) ...Sure you have  removed the correct
Variable ;-)
> > > >
> > > > HTH
> > > > Frank
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "fondlezz" <amkilgore@n...>
> > > > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 8:52 PM
> > > > Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPL newbie (still!) needs help
with
> > > xPL_HomeVision
> > > > (detecting variable chang
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Frank,
> > > > >
> > > > > > Are you getting the variable change reporting
by xPL-HVISION
> ...??
> > > > > > I assume you have the xPL-MOnitor running to
see the xPL
> Traffic ??
> > > > >
> > > > > This is my problem, xPL-HVISION doesn't seem to
notice the
> variable
> > > > > change until I manually "Resync" it. Up
until now I've just been
> > > > > looking at xPL-HVISION's debug view - I haven't
tried the
> monitor yet,
> > > > > will have a play with it tonight. (I did try using
it last
> night but I
> > > > > think it complained about a missing plugin or
summat).
> > > > >
> > > > > > Its  usually somrthing simple ....
> > > > > Who you callin' simple...? ;o)
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Andy.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc
Alinden" <frankmc@i...>
> > > wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Andy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Do you have any determinators which fire
on an HV variable
> > > change...?
> > > > > > > Work OK for you...?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Had a quick look and couldnt find any ,so
wrote  a Determinator
> > > > > which sends
> > > > > > out an osd message to the pcosd and works
fine ......
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Are you getting the variable change reporting
by xPL-HVISION
> ...?? I
> > > > > assume
> > > > > > you have the xPL-MOnitor running to see the
xPL Traffic ??
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > It MUST be something I'm not
understanding/doing wrong...!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Its  usually somrthing simple ....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Frank
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "fondlezz"
<amkilgore@n...>
> > > > > > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 7:19 PM
> > > > > > Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPL newbie (still!)
needs help with
> > > > > xPL_HomeVision
> > > > > > (detecting variable chang
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Frank,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Certainly have...!
> > > > > > > Do you have any determinators which fire
on an HV variable
> > > change...?
> > > > > > > Work OK for you...?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > It MUST be something I'm not
understanding/doing wrong...!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > Andy.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc
Alinden"
> <frankmc@i...>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi Andy
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I *think* after changing the
Exclude file you need to
> restart
> > > > > > > > xPL-HVISION...??? have you tried
that ????........
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Frank
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > > > From: "fondlezz"
<amkilgore@n...>
> > > > > > > > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 6:15 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: xPL newbie
(still!) needs help with
> > > > > > > xPL_HomeVision
> > > > > > > > (detecting variable chang
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Frank,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks for the reply...
> > > > > > > > > I have removed the variable's
corresponding entry from
> > > > > HVExclude.hvx
> > > > > > > > > and will try removing the
"CURRENT = " when I (finally)
> > > get home.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > However my main concern is
that xPL_HomeVision doesn't
> seem to
> > > > > detect
> > > > > > > > > the variable update until I do
a manual resync.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > > > > Andy.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx,
"Frank Mc Alinden"
> > > <frankmc@i...>
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > Hi Andy
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >         Remove the
current value from the input
> condition so
> > > > > > > that the
> > > > > > > > > > Determinator will only
look for the type.... ie
> > > variable... and
> > > > > > > variable
> > > > > > > > > > number...
(name).......From memory you must delete the
> > > variable
> > > > > > > from the
> > > > > > > > > > your HVExclude.hvx
file.......
> > > > > > > > > > Hope that makes some
sense...
> > > > > > > > > > Frank
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message
-----
> > > > > > > > > > From:
"fondlezz" <amkilgore@n...>
> > > > > > > > > > To:
<ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, May 20,
2005 5:59 PM
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: [ukha_xpl] xPL
newbie (still!) needs help with
> > > > > > > xPL_HomeVision
> > > > > > > > > > (detecting variable
change)..
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Last night I sat
down and decided to try this whole
> > > xPL thing
> > > > > > > again.
> > > > > > > > > > > Now either it's got
more idiot-proof or I've got wiser
> > > - I'm
> > > > > > > guessing
> > > > > > > > > > > the former.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Anyway, as a simple
test I wanted to create a
> > > determiator that
> > > > > > > would
> > > > > > > > > > > detect whenever a
particular periodic event fired
> (every
> > > > > > > minute) and
> > > > > > > > > > > display a message on
my Squeezebox. And, lo and
> behold, it
> > > > > > > worked!!!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > OK, next step - the
periodic event increments a
> > > variable so I
> > > > > > > scrapped
> > > > > > > > > > > my initial
determiator and put together a new one
> > > pretty much
> > > > > > > similar
> > > > > > > > > > > to the first but
with a "variable" condition
> rather than a
> > > > > > > "periodic".
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > First question:
> > > > > > > > > > > What kind of
expressions can I do with CURRENT=...?
> > > > > > > > > > > Is it just = or can
I use <, > etc...?
> > > > > > > > > > > Can I use the *
wildcard...? e.g. "CURRENT = *"
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Regardless of this,
the determinator never fires.
> > > > > > > > > > > I started
xPL_HomeVision with /debug, switched
> views and
> > > > > "watched"
> > > > > > > > > > > what was happening.
I could see the periodic event
> > > firing but
> > > > > > > nothing
> > > > > > > > > > > for the variable.
However, when I did a "Resync"
> > > > > xPL_HomeVision
> > > > > > > > > > > noticed that the
variable had changed. Is this the
> way it
> > > > > should
> > > > > > > > > be...?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Is there anything I
need to enable in the HV software
> > > > > other than
> > > > > > > > > > > DDE...? (I noticed
various reporting options but
> none of
> > > > > these are
> > > > > > > > > > > enabled).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Last thing: even
when I do the manual resync, the
> > > determinator
> > > > > > > doesn't
> > > > > > > > > > > fire - not sure why
this is.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Any help would be
greatly appreciated!
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks,
> > > > > > > > > > > Andy.
> > > > > > > > > > >
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