RE: Re: Vendor / Developer ID Question.

["Ian Lowe" <ian.lowe@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

No probs - the reason I ask is... Have you seen xplhal yet?

The purpose of the xml fragments etc becomes really obvious if you
install xPLHal, and use the xplhal manager - you can browse the xPL
"devices" on your network, and issuse commands to them, as well
as
including them in "determinators" (a very high level scripting
style
environment which allows non-programmers to make up quite complex
behaviour)

Well worth a look. :)

Ian.

-----Original Message-----
From: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Neil Wrightson
Sent: 29 June 2005 14:13
To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_xpl] Re: Vendor / Developer ID Question.

Hi Ian,

Thanks for the reply.
My background is windows with Delphi programming experience basic and
some C. On the hardware side I use AVR's and other similar IC's I have
developed LCD displays terminals (text and graphic), I/O modules, OSD
(Text on video)  weigand interfaces, 1wire (Dallas ibutton) Temperature
and I/O, X10 RF etc etc.


Regards,

Neil Wrightson.


-----Original Message-----
From: Ian Lowe [mailto:ian@xxxxxxx]
Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2005 11:04 PM
To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: Vendor / Developer ID Question.



(yet again, yahoo groups ate my email with no error!)

My reply:

Yeah -

It's (another!) of our glaringly missing bits of documentation!

When a developer has written an xPL app, or a bit of xPL hardware, the
mechanism which allows this to interact with everything else in plain
ole english rather than having to know how the messages are structured
is an xml description of the features offered by the module/app -
basically, a description of the triggers which it can generate, the
actions it can perform, and how it can be configured.

John B wrote an excellent wee "HOWTO" on creating these guys, but
I'm
struggling to find it -propbably in the archive, so I'll have a hunt
later.

In the meantime, this file here:
http://www.xpl.myby.co.uk/support/xplhalweb/plugins.zip
<http://www.xpl.myby.co.uk/support/xplhalweb/plugins.zip>

Contains all of the present ones - there are a good few examples in
there of how to use the system.

What's your background Neil? Linux? Windows?


--- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Frank Mc Alinden" <frankmc@i...>
wrote:
> Ooops  You also need the xml file for hardware as well....John B
did mine i just had a look on his site as i thought there was an article
there regarding the xml file but i dont see it....
>
> Frank
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Frank Mc Alinden
>   To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
>   Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 6:08 PM
>   Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] Re: Vendor / Developer ID Question.
>
>
>   Hi Neil
>
>           Im assuming Ian is thinking you are developing xPL
Applications rather than xPL Hardware.....
>
>   Below is a sample xml file of my xPL-FirM
>   - <configuration>
>     <configitem key="newconf" type="reconf"
/>
>     <configitem key="interval" type="reconf"
/>
>     </configuration>
>
>   This is one of Steves xPL-HVSION
>
>   - <configuration>
>     <configitem key="newconf" type="reconf"
/>
>     <configitem key="interval" type="reconf"
/>
>     <configitem key="group" type="option"
number="16" />
>     <configitem key="filter" type="option"
number="16" />
>     <configitem key="ddespeed" type="reconf"
/>
>     <configitem key="lastsent" type="reconf"
/>
>     <configitem key="assumeok" type="reconf"
/>
>     </configuration>
>
>   This is the configurable information  which the User can change /
adjust via xPL Devices
>
>   HTH
>   Frank
>
>
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     From: Neil Wrightson
>     To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
>     Sent: Wednesday, June 29, 2005 5:37 PM
>     Subject: RE: [ukha_xpl] Re: Vendor / Developer ID Question.
>
>
>     Hi Ian,
>
>     Yes it works.
>
>     generate an xml fragment to describe the features of your
app/module -
>     this also allows you to interact with xplhal and open up the
whole
>     scripting environment.
>
>     What exactly do you mean by this?
>
>     Regards,
>
>     Neil Wrightson.
>
>     [Neil Wrightson]  -----Original Message-----
>     From: Ian Lowe [mailto:ian@w...]
>     Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2005 1:59 AM
>     To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
>     Subject: [ukha_xpl] Re: Vendor / Developer ID Question.
>
>
>
>     This is driving me mad! I have replied to this enquiry right
fomr the
>     start, and yahoo groups keeps bouncing my emails. I'm posting
this
>     from the yahoo web interface in the hope that *this* works.
>
>     In reply to Geekster:
>
>     > Cheers!  It's yours :)
>     >
>     > When you have written some stuff, the best thing to do is
create an
>     > xml fragment which described the features of your modules.
>     >
>     > John B has a great guide on how to do this.
>     >
>     > Ian.
>
>
>     As for Neil...
>
>     --- In ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx, "Neil Wrightson"
<neilw@n...>
wrote:
>     > Good Luck geekster,
>     >
>     > I asked a question to the xPL Project site some months ago
asking
>     > for a Vendor ID of NWE and never received a response !
>     >
>     > It appears that the WEB site "Ask a Question" in
>     > http://www.xplproject.org.uk/modules.php?op=modload
<http://www.xplproject.org.uk/modules.php?op=modload>
>     < http://www.xplproject.org.uk/modules.php?op=modload
<http://www.xplproject.org.uk/modules.php?op=modload>
>
>     > < http://www.xplproject.org.uk/modules.php?
<http://www.xplproject.org.uk/modules.php?>
>     < http://www.xplproject.org.uk/modules.php?
<http://www.xplproject.org.uk/modules.php?>
>
>     op=modload&name=FAQ&file=index>
>     > &name=FAQ&file=index does not work or is not
monitored.
>
>     It's not monitored.
>
>     My apologies for the lack of response, but I have asked for
>     assistance with the website so many times that it's frankly
>     embarrasing - I'd absolutely love to update the whole thing,
but I
>     simply don't have the time.
>
>     > Who is the correct person to be emailing with regard to
seeking a
>     > Vendor/Developer ID?
>
>     Right here ;)
>
>     NWE is yours to use as a vendor ID - when you have written some
code,
>     you should do two things: firstly, let one of the existing
developers
>     have a play with it to ensure interoperability, and secondly,
>     generate an xml fragment to describe the features of your
app/module -
>     this also allows you to interact with xplhal and open up the
whole
>     scripting environment.
>
>     For the record, I'll repeat the call for help - the xPL project
has
>     come a long way, and has a lot of cool code in use... we are,
>     however, suffering from a lack of accessibility and
documentation.
>
>     Anyone who has web skills and would be willing to help
build/run a
>     nuke/mambo cms is more than welcome, and can start work right
away -
>     just mail me to see what we can do!
>
>     Ian.
>
>     Ian.
>
>
>
>
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