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Re: xPL-LCD Update
Hi Neil
> I have a AVR pcb with 2*16 LCD and 5 buttons.
> I will write some code to go into this for interfacing to the xPL.
Does your avr chip have a few k of memory ??...
For testing my hardware i send xPL messages via the Manager using
"send xpl
message "
> I'm trying to figure out what all of these other names that I see
splattered
> around the place are I.e. RIO, Probe, slimp, exstreamer, Asterisk
RIO , SLIMP3, EXSTREAMER ......are networked MP3 Players ...I have and use
the Exstreamer this currently uses Tonys xPLRIONET and soon his
xPLMEDIANET.......
Probe is an xPL app for my Peobe hardware which reports the status of tv,s
vcr,s etc when requested.......
Asterisk.........is an internet Phone application (voip) we have the guru
on
the list ;-) ( Andy P)
> I'm not Einstein nor a half wit but I only installed xPL today, so
thank
you
> for you time and please forgive my questions.
No problem....Its a little confusing at first..
Frank
----- Original Message -----
From: "Neil Wrightson" <neilw@xxxxxxx>
To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 9:12 PM
Subject: RE: [ukha_xpl] xPL-LCD Update
>
> Hi Frank,
>
> I have a AVR pcb with 2*16 LCD and 5 buttons.
> I will write some code to go into this for interfacing to the xPL.
>
> My current hardware is X10, 1Wire & OSD. I have also made quite a
few
> various AVR devices I.e. Serial I/O (8 inputs & 8 Outputs) Weigand
readers,
> Temperature monitors etc.
>
> I'm trying to figure out what all of these other names that I see
splattered
> around the place are I.e. RIO, Probe, slimp, exstreamer, Asterisk
>
> I'm not Einstein nor a half wit but I only installed xPL today, so
thank
you
> for you time and please forgive my questions.
>
> Regards,
>
> Neil Wrightson.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:fmcalind@xxxxxxx]
> Sent: Saturday, 23 April 2005 9:01 PM
> To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] xPL-LCD Update
>
>
>
> Hi Neil
>
> AEC is my VENDOR name.... which i use for all my xPL hardware i
develope
,
> you apply for a vendor name here and is usually granted with no
problems...
>
> LCDOSD is the DEVICE type which is self explanatory......
>
> LCDOSD1 is the INSTANCE ...this is editable by the user and is
bacially
the
> address of the lcd .....
>
> You would need some hardware that can decode an xPL message.........or
have
> someone create an app to suit your hardware...
>
> What hardware devices do you have presently ?? eg do you have a
networked
> MP3 player ??
> Frank
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Neil Wrightson" <neilw@xxxxxxx>
> To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:47 PM
> Subject: RE: [ukha_xpl] xPL-LCD Update
>
>
> >
> > Hi Frank,
> >
> > Starting to make more sense now. How do I create a device as in
your
> > "AEC-LCDOSD.LCD1"
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Neil Wrightson.
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:fmcalind@xxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Saturday, 23 April 2005 8:10 PM
> > To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] xPL-LCD Update
> >
> >
> >
> > Ooops sorry a TRIG message Sensor.basic not control.basic
> >
> > Frank
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Frank Mc Alinden" <fmcalind@xxxxxxx>
> > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 8:07 PM
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] xPL-LCD Update
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Neil
> > > Below is a copy of an osd message sent by a
Determinator in
> > response
> > > to receiving a control.basic message from my lcdosd with
menu1 data
> > > embedded in the message...
> > > My lcdosd displays the text section on the 2x20 lcd as
follows......on
> off
> > > 50% 75% ...Sensor.basic messages will be sent depending on
which
button
> 1
> > to
> > > 4 is pressed
> > >
> > > CBUS LIGHTS
> > > ON OFF 50 75
> > >
**************************************************************
> > >
> > > 23/04/05 19:54:08
> > >
> > > xpl-cmnd
> > > {
> > > hop=1
> > > source=XPL-XPLHAL.MAINPC
> > > target=AEC-LCDOSD.LCD1
> > > }
> > > osd.basic
> > > {
> > > command=clear
> > > text=CBUS LIGHTS\NON OFF 50% 75%
> > > delay=0
> > > }
> > >
> > >
****************************************************************
> > > This is a TRIG message sent by my lcdosd when button 1 is
> > pressed..Several
> > > Determinatores watch for this and also check the Menu Global
and when
> both
> > > are true the Determinator output actions are executed...eg
cbus lites
on
> > and
> > > OSD message sent etc......
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > 3/04/05 20:03:58
> > >
> > > xpl-trig
> > > {
> > > hop=1
> > > source=aec-lcdosd.lcdosd1
> > > target=*
> > > }
> > > sensor.basic
> > > {
> > > device=button1
> > > type=input
> > > current=high
> > > }
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Frank Mc Alinden" <fmcalind@xxxxxxx>
> > > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 7:50 PM
> > > Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] xPL-LCD Update
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Neil
> > > >
> > > > The devcom is for a serial device in my case i
have it setup
> for
> > > > comport 2 and have named the instance as
lcdosd1.....This devcom
will
> > > AFAIK
> > > > pass all xPL messages it receives thru to the serial
port and my
> xPL-LCD
> > > > will pick up the OSD messages sent to it or broadcast
osd
messages...
> > > >
> > > > The Determinators do not send any messages directly to
the serial
> > > > port...Messages are available for all apps to look at
and decide if
> > > action
> > > > is required........
> > > >
> > > > Have a look in the photo section of the list ,i have
some snippets
> there
> > > and
> > > > then get back to me ...
> > > >
> > > > Frank
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: "Neil Wrightson" <neilw@xxxxxxx>
> > > > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > > > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 7:42 PM
> > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_xpl] xPL-LCD Update
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Frank,
> > > > >
> > > > > OK, I have the ComDev installed and found the
determinator but
when
> I
> > > > select
> > > > > the comms device (of which I have two?) there are
no
> > triggers/conditions
> > > > to
> > > > > continue on with the wizard.
> > > > > Is it possible to export your determinator to me
so that I can see
> > what
> > > > > needs to be done?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > >
> > > > > Neil Wrightson.
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:fmcalind@xxxxxxx]
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, 23 April 2005 6:32 PM
> > > > > To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
> > > > > Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] xPL-LCD Update
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Neil
> > > > >
> > > > > > What simple new things can I do to learn the
power of xPL. I
> > currently
> > > > use
> > > > > > MH for my normal HA.
> > > > >
> > > > > Since you have x10 i suppose start
there.......Dont really use x10
> > > myself
> > > > so
> > > > > cant give any samples.....
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > How do I get the devcomm app and install it.
Where does the "OSD
> > > schema"
> > > > > fit
> > > > > > in and "CONTROL.BASIC schema"
> > > > >
> > > > > You get the devcom from Tonys site ...go to vb6
apps .....
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.xplhal.com/ <http://www.xplhal.com/> <
> http://www.xplhal.com/ <http://www.xplhal.com/> > <
> > http://www.xplhal.com/
<http://www.xplhal.com/> <
http://www.xplhal.com/
> <http://www.xplhal.com/>
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > The OSD schema is for display devices such as
slimp3 , tivo ,
vfdosd
> ,
> > > > mvp,
> > > > > my tvosd and my lcdosd and any other device which
can display
> > info...the
> > > > > schema info can be found at the main xPL
site....The control.basic
> > > schema
> > > > > info can be found there too..
> > > > > http://www.xplproject.org.uk/
<http://www.xplproject.org.uk/>
<
> http://www.xplproject.org.uk/
<http://www.xplproject.org.uk/>
> <
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<http://www.xplproject.org.uk/>
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> http://www.xplproject.org.uk/
<http://www.xplproject.org.uk/>
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Where are you writing you PC code.
> > > > >
> > > > > No pc type code to write otherwise i would be
> > stumped.....Determinators
> > > to
> > > > > the rescue ;-)
> > > > >
> > > > > You write Determinators which watch for events and
then take what
> ever
> > > > > action is required...
> > > > >
> > > > > For instance if i press the menu up button on
the lcdosd ,it
sends
> a
> > > > > control basic message which has a menu number
embedded within the
> > > > > message....
> > > > > I have a determinator which watches for the
control.basic message
> from
> > > my
> > > > > lcdosd and stores the menu number in a global
(variable)....
> > > > >
> > > > > Other Determinators watch for the buttons 1 to 4
and also check
the
> > > global
> > > > > for a specific number
> > > > > and will send an osd message to the lcdosd if both
are true...
> > > > >
> > > > > So menu 1 button 1 could be turn on bedroom
lites....The
> determinator
> > > will
> > > > > send a cbus command to xPL-CGATE and also send an
osd message to
the
> > lcd
> > > > to
> > > > > say the lite has been commanded ON display this
for 2 seconds and
> then
> > > > > refresh by sending menu 1 again...
> > > > >
> > > > > Hope this makes some sense
> > > > >
> > > > > Frank
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Neil Wrightson"
<neilw@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 5:33 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_xpl] xPL-LCD Update
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Frank,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm new to all of this (xPL). I have the HAL,
Manager and X10
> > > > installed.
> > > > > > The X10 works.
> > > > > > What simple new things can I do to learn the
power of xPL. I
> > currently
> > > > use
> > > > > > MH for my normal HA.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > How do I get the devcomm app and install it.
Where does the "OSD
> > > schema"
> > > > > fit
> > > > > > in and "CONTROL.BASIC schema"
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Where are you writing you PC code.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Neil Wrightson.
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:fmcalind@xxxxxxx]
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, 23 April 2005 1:37 PM
> > > > > > To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ukha_xpl] xPL-LCD Update
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi Neil
> > > > > > The xPL-LCD uses Tonys devcom app
which is used for
> > serial
> > > > > > devices....Im using the OSD schema to talk to
the LCD .......and
> > also
> > > > use
> > > > > > the CONTROL.BASIC schema for reporting the
status of the
> > > > > > buttons..........The lcd talks native xPL....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > HTH
> > > > > > Frank
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > > From: "Neil Wrightson"
<neilw@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > > To: <ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx>
> > > > > > Sent: Saturday, April 23, 2005 1:08 PM
> > > > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_xpl] xPL-LCD Update
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Frank,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What code are you using at the PC end to
drive your LCD?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What is the RS232 message format used to
connect to the LCD?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Neil Wrightson.
> > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > From: Frank Mc Alinden [mailto:fmcalind@xxxxxxx]
> > > > > > > Sent: Monday, 14 March 2005 10:51 PM
> > > > > > > To: ukha_xpl@xxxxxxx
> > > > > > > Subject: [ukha_xpl] xPL-LCD Update
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Hi Guys
> > > > > > > Been doing some work om y
xPL-LCD over the weekend
> and
> > > its
> > > > > > > taking shape....Have got it talking to
xPL ....and im able to
> > > > configure
> > > > > it
> > > > > > > etc....Have just made it the default OSD
device for my
> Exstreamer
> > > and
> > > > > > > xPLRIONET is sending osd messages to it
;-)).......
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Im also displaying the time in the top
line right hand side
and
> > > have
> > > > a
> > > > > > > recurring event running every minute to
update the
> time..........
> > > > > > > xPLRIO was clearing the time whenever a
new song started so i
> have
> > a
> > > > > > > Determinator watching
> > > > > > > for an OSD message from xPLRIO and i
pause for 1/2 second
(allow
> > the
> > > > pic
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > display the osd message) and then update
the time ;-))
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Im now thinking as Mal suggested in
having the Menus sent to
the
> > > > lcdosd
> > > > > > > (using Determinators)and track the menus
using a
> > global......thats
> > > > the
> > > > > > > theory....if it works the menus are
unlimited ........
> > > > > > > and all i need to do is send a trig
message for each
> > button.....the
> > > > > value
> > > > > > of
> > > > > > > the global and the button value will
determine which
> Determinator
> > > > > > > runs........
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > More Soon
> > > > > > > Frank
> > > > > > > www.armaghelectrical.com.au
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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