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Re: xPL Lib - updates




>
> If xpllib is running as a hub client (i.e. has bound to port 50,000+,
it
> should only *ever* listen on the loopback address - this ties in with
the
> hub which should only ever broadcast to the loopback address.

Ah, but it doesn't listen on the loopback address (which is impossible
btw), it listens on IPAddress.Any

<code_snippet>
While Portnum < XPL_BASE_DYNAMIC_PORT + 512 And Not Portnum = 0
Try
sockIncoming.Bind(New IPEndPoint(IPAddress.Any, Portnum))
XPL_Portnum = Portnum
</code_snippet>


>
> I'd suggest that the value of listenon should only be used if xpllib
is not
> working as a hub client, i.e. it has bound directly to the base port
3865.
> However, I don't know of any apps where it is recommended to bind to
the
> base port, as you prevent a hub from starting up.
> Therefore I can't see where listenon would be useful?
>

I'm doing this whole exercise because I plan to run xPL thingies on my pc
which:
- is connected to the internet;
- is dhcp-server for the local area network
- acts as a firewall.

So it has 2 network cards, but I want to make sure that all the xPL
packages stay within the local area network, and that no xPL device
accepts anything from the internet.

Because the xPLListener is listening on some port 500x on
IPAddress.Any, it would receive package from both sides (if the
firewall doesn't stop them).

> > - Added support for a configuration item "listento":
this is the
> > address from which to accept incoming data: valid values
> > are "ANY", "ANY_LOCAL" or a specific IP.
>
> Again, when running as a hub client, xpllib should only have bound to
the
> loopback ddress, so should only ever receive messages from the
loopback
> address, so again I'm not sure of the use of this parameter.
>

Same reasoning as above: suppose you are listening on both
IPAddresses, then you may choose to refuse packages from unknown
sources.

It is a security thing:
- either you listen on all addresses, but then you better check what you
receive
- or you listen on a specific address and then you can be sure it is
coming from a trusted party (depending on your setup).
Duing the config stage, you have to listen on all ip addresses,
because there is no way to know which address is used for xPL.
Because there is a check on incoming data, package from an unknown
source will still be rejected.

You are focusing on using xPLLib on a single PC communicating with the
xPLHub, but can it not also serve in a scenario where xPL devices are
distributed over multiple PCs ?  For example on a server have an xPL
device control print jobs, send out xPL messages for each print job it
receives, etc.  Here it would make sense to limit the "listento"
addresses, if you want to give control to a select few (ok, bad
example because it is usually no threat to give people control over a
printer ;-)

Sidenote:
In fact here you can see that I wanted "listento" to be something
like
"filter[16]" or "group[16]".  HAL treats a
"listento[16]" in the
config.list message ok, presents it nicely to the user and sends the
result as it should.  But when going back a second time to the
configuration screen, it cannot handle the multiple values stored in
the same item.


> OK - what happens if a new release of xpllib comes across an existing
XML
> config file?
> How much of it can it read, or does it ignore the whole thing and come
up as
> a new instance?

At first sight (did not test it) it will accept the file, but it will
not have read its InstanceName, so I am sure it will crash somewhere
:-)
Maybe a solution might be to add a version attribute in the XML file ?
Or in the filename ?
Best is to delete the existing file, HAL will send its stored
configuration over and then xPLLib will save in the new format.


> If you send me the code offlist, I'll take a look at it and have a go
at
> integrating it into some of my apps and see how we get on.

Ok, expect a mail soon.

Regards,
Tom



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