Re: MSure goes xAP

["Per" <per.malmberg@xxxxxxxxx>]

Ok, I will stick with the TSC schema, and add .query and .cmd support.

I'll likey be back soon with more questions!



Cheers,

Per


--- In xAP_developer@xxxxxxx, Kevin Hawkins <yahoogroupskh@...>
wrote:
>
> Welcome Per, nice to have you on board.
>
> As you say we are in early days re the adoption of TSC - we do need
> some real world implementation feedback so that we know that the
schema
> meets the purpose it is designed for. We also of course need more
> applications to support it - but in turn they need data sources to
test
> against. Having your application available will be another helpful
> part. My recommendation would be to continue with TSC as I think you
> will find it much more appropriate for your application than BSC.
>
> I hope that developers do add support for TSC and James has just
> released a xAP Floorplan build that already does and I have
provisional
> support in my HomeVision/C-Bus/IHC gateway. Most control applications
> already have the ability to support custom schema so TSC data can be
> recovered but more specific support makes this so much tidier.
>
> TSC is derived from BSC and so you may well find that you are able
> to support BSC very easily alongside TSC which will maximise existing
> support and adoption for your application. BSC is pervasively
supported
> by nearly all xAP control applications and controllers. It is possible
> to report sensor data and their measurement units using BSC by abusing
a
> text device rather than a level device , and this approach has been
used
> by several developers, but this practice will I hope be superceded by
TSC.
>
> From a database logging aspect then it looks like you are already
> fairly able to support any schema which is great. BSC would be one of
> the key schema found here.
>
> Re Any major changes to TSC - I am not aware of any. I am acutely
> aware there is still no formal xAP v1.3 specification out there but as
> long as you are aware of the UID change for v1.3 that is essentially
the
> only aspect that has an impact on TSC.
>
> Re .cmd and .query support within TSC. My view would be that any
> TSC device that has listening ability and codespace should support
> .query and any device that has controllable outputs should support
.cmd
> messages. The .query is required for any controller at startup to
> synch it's status with your device and also has uses for device
> discovery. Wildcarding is another aspect that you need to consider and
> although not so critical in terms of input only devices (as you can
> return all sensor information regardless) it is most important that it
> works correctly for outputs . Partial TSC/BSC implementations only
> lead to confusion and frustration from users.
>
> Any questions I'm more than happy to try and help - and I'm sure
> others who worked with TSC will chime in too.... TSC is an interactive
> (bi-directional) schema which takes a little more care in getting it
> just right but the results merit the investment.
>
> Looking forward to the results..
>
> cheers Kevin
>
>
>
> per.malmberg@... wrote:
> > Greetings all,
> >
> > Let me introduce myself; the name's Per Malmberg and I'm the
author
of MSure (pronounced 'measure'), an application that serves as a
foundation to a Windows-based HA system.
> >
> > I am happy to announce that MSure is currently in the process of
gaining xAP support, or at least partial support, which is the reason
I'm posting here today.
> >
> > Although I am aware that the TSC schema wasn't finalized yet, I
opted to use that schema as it seemed to fit quite well with the data
I'm publishing.
> >
> > However, based on the recent discussions regarding this schema I
am
wondering where it is headed, and if I should stay with it. I don't mind
supporting this schema although it is not finalized, but if there are
major changes coming I very much would like to know that so I can 'take
a step back' and wait a while with the release of my xAP Gateway module,
or at least add support for another schema, such as BSC.
> >
> > Also, the specification isn't clear on all points as to what is
required to be compliant with the schema. For example, are .cmd and
.query mandatory?
> >
> > That's all for now. You can find the website here:
http://www.msure.se and
specifics on the xAP Gateway module here:
http://www.msure.se/wiki/index.php5?title=Manual:Modules/xAP_Gateway
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Per
> >
> >
> >
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