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When you have finished xAp support you my consider VSCP support (
http://www.vscp.org).
Nice software you have there!

/Ake

On 4/1/07, mlohbihler <ml@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>   Hi Patrick,
>
> I had a deeper look at the Java code. I think it will take a bit of
> work to integrate with Mango, although what you have is a good start.
> Were you going to contact me offline? I didn't hear anything, and i
> just wanted to make sure a spam checker didn't get involved or
anything.
>
> Cheers,
> m@
>
> --- In xAP_developer@xxxxxxx <xAP_developer%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Patrick Lidstone" <patrick@...>
> wrote:
> >
> > I will contact you off list - I don't anticipate there being a
> problem with
> > us reaching agreement.
> >
> > Patrick
> >
> > On 3/24/07, mlohbihler <ml@...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Kevin,
> > >
> > > Thanks for the information. Regarding the license, if it is
indeed GPL
> > > i unfortunately will not be able to use the code within
Mango, since i
> > > am planning to have add-ons and such for which i would
charge. If the
> > > developer (Patrick Lidstone, i believe) has not yet decided,
then the
> > > LGPL is much more adoption friendly.
> > >
> > > Best regards,
> > > m@
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In xAP_developer@xxxxxxx
<xAP_developer%40yahoogroups.com>,
> Kevin Hawkins <lists@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Matthew,
> > > >
> > > > I had a quick look at your website and this looks very
interesting
> > > > ... glad you are considering adding xAP support.
> > > >
> > > > Probably the most prevalent and useful schema you will
wish to
> > > > support is xAP 'BSC' which is Basic Status and Control
- it handles
> > > (as
> > > > it says on the tin) most simple I/O involving binary,
level and text
> > > > based devices.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
> http://www.xapautomation.org/wiki/index.php/Basic_Status_and_Control_Schema
> > > >
> > > > We will be augmenting this with a 'TSC' schema
(telemetry) very
> > > > shortly and an initial 'for comment' version is already
available at
> > > the
> > > > url below. TSC better handles sensor reporting data
including
> ranges,
> > > > real world units and negative values etc.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
>
> http://www.xapautomation.org/wiki/index.php/xAP_Telemetry_Status_and_Control_Schema
> > > >
> > > > There are a few hardware I/O devices supporting
embedded xAP BSC.
> > > > Two useful ones will be the Phaedrus xAP Netiom which
is essentially
> > > > mostly digital I/O, including serial but has 4 analogue
inputs. Of
> > > > recent date the opnone which is a 1-wire interface,
shortly
> there will
> > > > be a serial version too that supports X10 and another
for SMS
> > > messaging.
> > > > There is also an embedded C-Bus controller supporting
BSC but you
> > > > probably won't have the hardware to support that. If
you are
> able to
> > > > work with software applications there are also several
other useful
> > > > applications around using BSC that could help too.
> > > >
> > > > http://www.phaedrusltd.com/pages/html/netiom-xap.html
> > > > http://www.opnode.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=home
> > > >
> > > > Any questions - just ask away and once again ... I
believe the
> > > > existing Java libraries are also released under GPL and
there
> have been
> > > > a couple of tweaks to them recently ... but I'll leave
that to be
> > > > confirmed by those involved..... Once again welcome and
I look
> > > forward
> > > > to seeing xAP support within Mango M2M
> > > >
> > > > Cheers Kevin
> > > >
> > > > mlohbihler wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I'm the primary developer of Mango M2M
> > > > > (http://mango.serotoninsoftware.com).
I'm considering adding xAP
> > > > > support to the product, but first wanted to check
on the
> license for
> > > > > the Java implementation. Mango is licensed as open
source
> under GPL.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, if anyone knows of something good that could
serve as an xAP
> > > > > evaluation kit (i.e. real hardware for testing the
Mango/xAP
> > > > > integration), i would appreciate any suggestions.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > Matthew Lohbihler
> > > > > Serotonin Software
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>



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Phone: (46) 657 413430 Cellular: (46) 73 0533 146
Company home: http://www.dofscandinavia.com
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When you have finished xAp support you my consider VSCP support (<a
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software you have
there!<br><br>/Ake<br><br><div><span
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mlohbihler</b> &lt;<a href="mailto:ml@xxxxxxx";>ml@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;
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<p>Hi Patrick,<br>
<br>
I had a deeper look at the Java code. I think it will take a bit
of<br>
work to integrate with Mango, although what you have is a good
start.<br>
Were you going to contact me offline? I didn&#39;t hear anything, and
i<br>
just wanted to make sure a spam checker didn&#39;t get involved or
anything.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
m@<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:xAP_developer%40yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank" onclick="return
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">xAP_developer@xxxxxxx</a>,
&quot;Patrick Lidstone&quot; &lt;patrick@...&gt;<span
class="q">
<br>
wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; I will contact you off list - I don&#39;t anticipate there
being a<br>
problem with<br>
&gt; us reaching agreement.<br>
&gt; <br>
&gt; Patrick<br>
&gt; <br></span></p><div><span
class="e" id="q_111af11eb11d0a9c_2">
&gt; On 3/24/07, mlohbihler &lt;ml@...&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Hi Kevin,<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Thanks for the information. Regarding the license, if it
is indeed GPL<br>
&gt; &gt; i unfortunately will not be able to use the code within
Mango, since i<br>
&gt; &gt; am planning to have add-ons and such for which i would
charge. If the<br>
&gt; &gt; developer (Patrick Lidstone, i believe) has not yet
decided, then the<br>
&gt; &gt; LGPL is much more adoption friendly.<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Best regards,<br>
&gt; &gt; m@<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; --- In <a href="mailto:xAP_developer%40yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank" onclick="return
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">xAP_developer@xxxxxxx</a>,
Kevin Hawkins &lt;lists@&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Hi Matthew,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;   I had a quick look at your website and this
looks very interesting<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; ...  glad you are considering adding xAP
support.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;    Probably the most prevalent and useful schema
you will wish to<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; support is xAP &#39;BSC&#39;  which is
Basic Status and Control - it handles<br>
&gt; &gt; (as<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; it says on the tin) most simple I/O involving
binary, level and text<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; based devices.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
<a href="http://www.xapautomation.org/wiki/index.php/Basic_Status_and_Control_Schema";
target="_blank" onclick="return
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.xapautomation.org/wiki/index.php/Basic_Status_and_Control_Schema
</a><br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; We will  be augmenting this with a
&#39;TSC&#39; schema (telemetry) very<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; shortly and an initial &#39;for
comment&#39; version is already available at<br>
&gt; &gt; the<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; url below. TSC better handles sensor reporting
data including <br>
ranges,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; real world units and negative values
etc.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
<a href="http://www.xapautomation.org/wiki/index.php/xAP_Telemetry_Status_and_Control_Schema";
target="_blank" onclick="return
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.xapautomation.org/wiki/index.php/xAP_Telemetry_Status_and_Control_Schema
</a><br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;   There are a few hardware I/O devices
supporting embedded xAP BSC.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; Two useful ones will be the Phaedrus xAP Netiom
which is essentially<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; mostly digital I/O, including serial  but has 4
analogue inputs. Of<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; recent date the opnone which is a 1-wire
interface, shortly<br>
there will<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; be a serial version too that supports X10 and
another for SMS<br>
&gt; &gt; messaging.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;  There is also an embedded C-Bus controller
supporting BSC but you<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; probably won&#39;t have the hardware to
support that.  If you are<br>
able to<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; work with software applications there are also
several other useful<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; applications around using BSC that could help
too.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <a href="http://www.phaedrusltd.com/pages/html/netiom-xap.html";
target="_blank" onclick="return
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.phaedrusltd.com/pages/html/netiom-xap.html</a><br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; <a href="http://www.opnode.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=home";
target="_blank" onclick="return
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.opnode.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=home</a><br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;    Any questions - just ask away and once again
... I believe the<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; existing Java libraries are also released under
GPL and there<br>
have been<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; a couple of tweaks to them recently ... but
I&#39;ll leave that to be<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; confirmed by those involved.....   Once again
welcome and I look<br>
&gt; &gt; forward<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; to seeing xAP support within Mango M2M<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;   Cheers Kevin<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt;  mlohbihler wrote:<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Hi,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I&#39;m the primary developer of
Mango M2M<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; (<a href="http://mango.serotoninsoftware.com";
target="_blank" onclick="return
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://mango.serotoninsoftware.com</a>).
I&#39;m considering adding xAP<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; support to the product, but first
wanted to check on the<br>
license for<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; the Java implementation. Mango is
licensed as open source<br>
under GPL.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Also, if anyone knows of something good
that could serve as an xAP<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; evaluation kit (i.e. real hardware for
testing the Mango/xAP<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; integration), i would appreciate any
suggestions.<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Thanks,<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Matthew Lohbihler<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Serotonin Software<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Yahoo! Groups Links<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
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&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Yahoo! Groups Links<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
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