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Sorry for sending this to the xAP list. Intended to send it directly.
Again sorry!
/Ake
On 4/4/07, YAP <x112358@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> When you have finished xAp support you my consider VSCP support (
> http://www.vscp.org). Nice software you have
there!
>
> /Ake
>
> On 4/1/07, mlohbihler <ml@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Patrick,
> >
> > I had a deeper look at the Java code. I think it will take a bit
of
> > work to integrate with Mango, although what you have is a good
start.
> > Were you going to contact me offline? I didn't hear anything, and
i
> > just wanted to make sure a spam checker didn't get involved or
anything.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > m@
> >
> > --- In xAP_developer@xxxxxxx
<xAP_developer%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > "Patrick Lidstone" <patrick@...>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > I will contact you off list - I don't anticipate there being
a
> > problem with
> > > us reaching agreement.
> > >
> > > Patrick
> > >
> > > On 3/24/07, mlohbihler <ml@...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi Kevin,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the information. Regarding the license, if
it is indeed
> > GPL
> > > > i unfortunately will not be able to use the code within
Mango, since
> > i
> > > > am planning to have add-ons and such for which i would
charge. If
> > the
> > > > developer (Patrick Lidstone, i believe) has not yet
decided, then
> > the
> > > > LGPL is much more adoption friendly.
> > > >
> > > > Best regards,
> > > > m@
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --- In
xAP_developer@xxxxxxx<xAP_developer%40yahoogroups.com>,
> > Kevin Hawkins <lists@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Matthew,
> > > > >
> > > > > I had a quick look at your website and this looks
very interesting
> > > > > ... glad you are considering adding xAP support.
> > > > >
> > > > > Probably the most prevalent and useful schema you
will wish to
> > > > > support is xAP 'BSC' which is Basic Status and
Control - it
> > handles
> > > > (as
> > > > > it says on the tin) most simple I/O involving
binary, level and
> > text
> > > > > based devices.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.xapautomation.org/wiki/index.php/Basic_Status_and_Control_Schema
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > We will be augmenting this with a 'TSC' schema
(telemetry) very
> > > > > shortly and an initial 'for comment' version is
already available
> > at
> > > > the
> > > > > url below. TSC better handles sensor reporting
data including
> > ranges,
> > > > > real world units and negative values etc.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > http://www.xapautomation.org/wiki/index.php/xAP_Telemetry_Status_and_Control_Schema
> >
> > > > >
> > > > > There are a few hardware I/O devices supporting
embedded xAP BSC.
> > > > > Two useful ones will be the Phaedrus xAP Netiom
which is
> > essentially
> > > > > mostly digital I/O, including serial but has 4
analogue inputs. Of
> > > > > recent date the opnone which is a 1-wire
interface, shortly
> > there will
> > > > > be a serial version too that supports X10 and
another for SMS
> > > > messaging.
> > > > > There is also an embedded C-Bus controller
supporting BSC but you
> > > > > probably won't have the hardware to support that.
If you are
> > able to
> > > > > work with software applications there are also
several other
> > useful
> > > > > applications around using BSC that could help too.
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.phaedrusltd.com/pages/html/netiom-xap.html
> > > > > http://www.opnode.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=home
> > > > >
> > > > > Any questions - just ask away and once again ... I
believe the
> > > > > existing Java libraries are also released under
GPL and there
> > have been
> > > > > a couple of tweaks to them recently ... but I'll
leave that to be
> > > > > confirmed by those involved..... Once again
welcome and I look
> > > > forward
> > > > > to seeing xAP support within Mango M2M
> > > > >
> > > > > Cheers Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > > mlohbihler wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I'm the primary developer of Mango M2M
> > > > > > (http://mango.serotoninsoftware.com).
I'm considering adding xAP
> > > > > > support to the product, but first wanted to
check on the
> > license for
> > > > > > the Java implementation. Mango is licensed as
open source
> > under GPL.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Also, if anyone knows of something good that
could serve as an
> > xAP
> > > > > > evaluation kit (i.e. real hardware for
testing the Mango/xAP
> > > > > > integration), i would appreciate any
suggestions.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks,
> > > > > > Matthew Lohbihler
> > > > > > Serotonin Software
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> ---
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> eurosource, Brattbergavagen 17, 820 50 LOS, Sweden
> Phone: (46) 657 413430 Cellular: (46) 73 0533 146
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> Automated home: http://www.vscp.org
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Sorry for sending this to the xAP list. Intended to send it
directly. <br><br>Again
sorry!<br>/Ake<br><br><div><span
class="gmail_quote">On 4/4/07, <b
class="gmail_sendername">YAP</b> <<a
href="mailto:x112358@xxxxxxx";>
x112358@xxxxxxx</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote
class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204,
204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">When you
have finished xAp support you my consider VSCP support (
<a href="http://www.vscp.org";
target="_blank" onclick="return
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.vscp.org</a>). Nice
software you have there!<br><br>/Ake<div><span
class="e"
id="q_111bcd6157b9d4c5_1"><br><br>
<div><span class="gmail_quote">On 4/1/07, <b
class="gmail_sendername">
mlohbihler</b> <<a href="mailto:ml@xxxxxxx";
target="_blank" onclick="return
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">ml@xxxxxxx</a>>
wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
<div style="background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);">
<div style="width: 655px;">
<div style="padding: 0pt 15px 0pt 0pt; width: 490px; float:
left;">
<div>
<p>Hi Patrick,<br>
<br>
I had a deeper look at the Java code. I think it will take a bit
of<br>
work to integrate with Mango, although what you have is a good
start.<br>
Were you going to contact me offline? I didn't hear anything, and
i<br>
just wanted to make sure a spam checker didn't get involved or
anything.<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
m@<br>
<br>
--- In <a href="mailto:xAP_developer%40yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank" onclick="return
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">xAP_developer@xxxxxxx</a>,
"Patrick Lidstone"
<patrick@...><span>
<br>
wrote:<br>
><br>
> I will contact you off list - I don't anticipate there
being a<br>
problem with<br>
> us reaching agreement.<br>
> <br>
> Patrick<br>
> <br></span></p><div><span>
> On 3/24/07, mlohbihler <ml@...> wrote:<br>
> ><br>
> > Hi Kevin,<br>
> ><br>
> > Thanks for the information. Regarding the license, if it
is indeed GPL<br>
> > i unfortunately will not be able to use the code within
Mango, since i<br>
> > am planning to have add-ons and such for which i would
charge. If the<br>
> > developer (Patrick Lidstone, i believe) has not yet
decided, then the<br>
> > LGPL is much more adoption friendly.<br>
> ><br>
> > Best regards,<br>
> > m@<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > --- In <a href="mailto:xAP_developer%40yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank" onclick="return
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">xAP_developer@xxxxxxx</a>,
Kevin Hawkins <lists@> wrote:<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Hi Matthew,<br>
> > ><br>
> > > I had a quick look at your website and this
looks very interesting<br>
> > > ... glad you are considering adding xAP
support.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Probably the most prevalent and useful schema
you will wish to<br>
> > > support is xAP 'BSC' which is
Basic Status and Control - it handles<br>
> > (as<br>
> > > it says on the tin) most simple I/O involving
binary, level and text<br>
> > > based devices.<br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
<a href="http://www.xapautomation.org/wiki/index.php/Basic_Status_and_Control_Schema";
target="_blank" onclick="return
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.xapautomation.org/wiki/index.php/Basic_Status_and_Control_Schema
</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > > We will be augmenting this with a
'TSC' schema (telemetry) very<br>
> > > shortly and an initial 'for
comment' version is already available at<br>
> > the<br>
> > > url below. TSC better handles sensor reporting
data including <br>
ranges,<br>
> > > real world units and negative values
etc.<br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
<a href="http://www.xapautomation.org/wiki/index.php/xAP_Telemetry_Status_and_Control_Schema";
target="_blank" onclick="return
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.xapautomation.org/wiki/index.php/xAP_Telemetry_Status_and_Control_Schema
</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > > There are a few hardware I/O devices
supporting embedded xAP BSC.<br>
> > > Two useful ones will be the Phaedrus xAP Netiom
which is essentially<br>
> > > mostly digital I/O, including serial but has 4
analogue inputs. Of<br>
> > > recent date the opnone which is a 1-wire
interface, shortly<br>
there will<br>
> > > be a serial version too that supports X10 and
another for SMS<br>
> > messaging.<br>
> > > There is also an embedded C-Bus controller
supporting BSC but you<br>
> > > probably won't have the hardware to
support that. If you are<br>
able to<br>
> > > work with software applications there are also
several other useful<br>
> > > applications around using BSC that could help
too.<br>
> > ><br>
> > > <a href="http://www.phaedrusltd.com/pages/html/netiom-xap.html";
target="_blank" onclick="return
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.phaedrusltd.com/pages/html/netiom-xap.html</a><br>
> > > <a href="http://www.opnode.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=home";
target="_blank" onclick="return
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.opnode.org/dokuwiki/doku.php?id=home</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > > Any questions - just ask away and once again
... I believe the<br>
> > > existing Java libraries are also released under
GPL and there<br>
have been<br>
> > > a couple of tweaks to them recently ... but
I'll leave that to be<br>
> > > confirmed by those involved..... Once again
welcome and I look<br>
> > forward<br>
> > > to seeing xAP support within Mango M2M<br>
> > ><br>
> > > Cheers Kevin<br>
> > ><br>
> > > mlohbihler wrote:<br>
> > > > Hi,<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > I'm the primary developer of
Mango M2M<br>
> > > > (<a href="http://mango.serotoninsoftware.com";
target="_blank" onclick="return
top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://mango.serotoninsoftware.com</a>).
I'm considering adding xAP<br>
> > > > support to the product, but first
wanted to check on the<br>
license for<br>
> > > > the Java implementation. Mango is
licensed as open source<br>
under GPL.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Also, if anyone knows of something good
that could serve as an xAP<br>
> > > > evaluation kit (i.e. real hardware for
testing the Mango/xAP<br>
> > > > integration), i would appreciate any
suggestions.<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Thanks,<br>
> > > > Matthew Lohbihler<br>
> > > > Serotonin Software<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > > Yahoo! Groups Links<br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > > ><br>
> > ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> > Yahoo! Groups Links<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
><br>
<br>
</span></div><p></p>
</div><span>
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white;"></span>
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</blockquote></div><br><br
clear="all"><br></span></div>-- <br>
---<br>Ake Hedman (YAP - Yet Another Programmer)<br>eurosource,
Brattbergavagen 17, 820 50 LOS, Sweden<br>Phone: (46) 657 413430
Cellular: (46) 73 0533 146<br>
Company home:
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target="_blank" onclick="return
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http://www.brattberg.com</a><br>Personal
homepage: <a href="http://www.dofscandinavia.com/akhe";
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home: <a href="http://www.vscp.org";
target="_blank" onclick="return
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</blockquote></div><br><br
clear="all"><br>-- <br> ---<br>Ake Hedman
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50 LOS, Sweden<br>Phone: (46) 657 413430 Cellular: (46) 73 0533
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<a href="http://www.dofscandinavia.com";>http://www.dofscandinavia.com</a>
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