Re: Re: xAP interface to Alertme Smartplugs

[Kevin Hawkins <yahoogroupskh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hi Paul ... tried to contact you but your emails are bouncing...

K

Paul Bendall wrote:
>
>
> Kevin,
>
> Thanks for the info. I'm getting quite excited about the Plugwise,
> http://www.plugwise.com/en/products/products,
> <http://www.plugwise.com/en/products/products,>
although the UK
> version looks to have been pushed back to H2 of this year they have
> released the "Stealth" which is the PCB board for DIY'ers
who are not
> concerned about certification. More info seems to be available on the
> the following forum:
>
> http://www.domoticaforum.eu/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=39
> <http://www.domoticaforum.eu/forum.asp?FORUM_ID=39>
>
> I also found a review on the following UK based Blog:
>
> http://www.reuk.co.uk/Plugwise-Energy-Monitoring-and-Saving.htm
> <http://www.reuk.co.uk/Plugwise-Energy-Monitoring-and-Saving.htm>
>
> Paul
> --- In xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>,
Kevin Hawkins
> <yahoogroupskh@...> wrote:
> >
> > The CurrentCost people have a plug type device announced but not
yet
> > available.
> > It's a monitoring rather than an RF controllable on/off device
though.
> >
> > K
> >
> > Paul Bendall wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Does anyone know of an alternative to the SmartPlug but with
the same
> > > functionallity i.e. accurate power monitoring (as opposed to
just a
> > > current sensor and voltage assumption) and ability to be
controlled
> > > via xAP (or at the possibility to be controlled)?
> > >
> > > I know about the Plogg but at £55 a unit that is a bit
expensive.
> I've
> > > come across Plugwise which is a Dutch company but info
suggests a UK
> > > version is iminenet.
> > >
> > > Anything else?
> > >
> > > Paul
> > >
> > > --- In xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>,
"Paul Bendall" <paul@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Kevin,
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for the investigation. I must admit I hadn't
considered a
> > > call-back over the internet I assumed it would be to the
hub.
> Shame as
> > > the device looked promising and at a good price point as
well.
> > > >
> > > > Paul
> > > >
> > > > --- In xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>,
Kevin Hawkins
> > > <yahoogroupskh@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just had a quick look over their current API and I
can't see any
> > > way of
> > > > > getting at the power consumption figures :-( -
either from the
> > > plugs or
> > > > > the hub. There is a call to turn a plug on/off but
that's
> about it :-(
> > > > >
> > > > > Even if there was then those remote API calls also
suffer from the
> > > > > following caveat..
> > > > >
> > > > > "Requests to the API are rate limited. Should
a request fail
> > > because of
> > > > > rate limiting, you will see the following HTTP
error: 503 Service
> > > > > Temporarily Unavailable It is therefore important
to handle this
> > > error
> > > > > gracefully. The extent to which requests are
limited can be
> > > reviewed on
> > > > > a case-by-case basis. If you believe your
application needs less
> > > > > restrictive rate limiting, please contact
support"
> > > > >
> > > > > Which makes any prospect of getting useful
realtime (ish) data
> from
> > > > > plugs unlikely - AlertMe really do need to have
some local API
> calls
> > > > > for such applications or the means to handle
bucketloads of remote
> > > > > ones. I suspect part of their reluctance is that
if the internet
> > > > > connection fails then they have data rates over
GPRS to pay for...
> > > > >
> > > > > So it doesn't look like a xAP conduit is very
practical.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin Hawkins wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > AIUI it the AlertMe API actually makes calls
to their
> central server
> > > > > > (over the internet) rather than to your local
AlertMe ZigBee
> hub
> > > - which
> > > > > > is a real shame as it introduces
latency/dependency . It would
> > > be nice
> > > > > > if at least some appropriate API calls were
handled locally. So
> > > for me
> > > > > > this caused a certain loss of interest but I
could have got it
> > > wrong as
> > > > > > I only spent a few minutes looking. I'm not
sure if you also
> need
> > > > > > their monthly subscribed version for this ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They haven't yet announced their 'power
bundle' yet - ie the
> > > hub/plugs
> > > > > > have they ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nearly a purchaser ....
> > > > > >
> > > > > > K
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul Bendall wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Good morning all,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I not sure if anyone else subscribed to
the Alertme
> > > newsletter? They
> > > > > > > have finally released the Smartplug
which monitors power use
> > > and can
> > > > > > > switch on and off. I'd love to know if
anyone is working
> on an xAP
> > > > > > > interface to Alertme?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Smartplugs
> > > > > > > http://www.alertme.com/energy-saving/#save
> <http://www.alertme.com/energy-saving/#save>
> > > <http://www.alertme.com/energy-saving/#save
> <http://www.alertme.com/energy-saving/#save>>
> > > > > > <http://www.alertme.com/energy-saving/#save
> <http://www.alertme.com/energy-saving/#save>
> > > <http://www.alertme.com/energy-saving/#save
> <http://www.alertme.com/energy-saving/#save>>>
> > > > > > > <http://www.alertme.com/energy-saving/#save
> <http://www.alertme.com/energy-saving/#save>
> > > <http://www.alertme.com/energy-saving/#save
> <http://www.alertme.com/energy-saving/#save>>
> > > > > > <http://www.alertme.com/energy-saving/#save
> <http://www.alertme.com/energy-saving/#save>
> > > <http://www.alertme.com/energy-saving/#save
> <http://www.alertme.com/energy-saving/#save>>>>
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Forum discussing API
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > >
> http://support.alertme.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5503&task=forum
> <http://support.alertme.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5503&task=forum>
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> > >
> <http://support.alertme.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5503&task=forum
> <http://support.alertme.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5503&task=forum>>
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> <http://support.alertme.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5503&task=forum
> <http://support.alertme.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5503&task=forum>
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> <http://support.alertme.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5503&task=forum
> <http://support.alertme.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5503&task=forum>>>
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> <http://support.alertme.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5503&task=forum
> <http://support.alertme.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5503&task=forum>
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> <http://support.alertme.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5503&task=forum
> <http://support.alertme.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5503&task=forum>>
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> <http://support.alertme.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5503&task=forum>
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> <http://support.alertme.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=5503&task=forum
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