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Re: Re: Squeezebox Duet



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Hi Kevin,
I'm not familiar with xServer, so I don't understand the references to TCP
connections here.
I've built, and run, a cache on my own network - but it's not a very
elegant
solution. Maintaining the state on a distributed basis is a very attractive
solution, and as you point out, it's not necessarily incompatible with
low-end devices, as you generally have to maintain the state of the device
some how anyway.
I see the requirement to simply 'regurgitate' the last message (possibly,
but not necessarily tied to a specific endpoint) as a generic way of
building 'status' capability into all devices without incurring a
significant overhead.
Patrick

On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Kevin Hawkins <
yahoogroupskh@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> BSC naturally has a query abilty at the individual endpoint level -
such
> that an off device that awoke can immediately synch its state info. 
For
> other xAP schema this could be useful although an endpoint might
present
> several different schema  or not even use sub addressing.
>
> It's an interesting idea, I wonder if a state/cache application might
be
> appropriate.   Just at the moment I'm re-writing the xServer to allow
> for an attaching router client to setup on demand source/class filter
> conditions .  Within this there could be a need to provide a small
> buffer for messages, which is a similar feature.   This is because the
> client is polling.  It maybe that a TCP connection is maintainable -
but
> if not the buffer , or a recover status is needed.
>
>    K
>
> Patrick Lidstone wrote:
> >
> > Perhaps this is a good time to chip in with my latest xAP
protocol
> > wheeze - formalising the ability of a device to remember the last
> > message it sent on each endpoint, and providing for a simple
> > retransmission request. This would effectively generalise the
'status'
> > capability to cover any message broadcast from any device by xAP.
> > There are some wrinkles to iron out - but it has promise,
especially
> > when you have 'mostly off' devices in play.
> >
> > P.
> >
> > On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Edward Pearson
> > <edward.mailgroup@xxxxxxx
> > <mailto:edward.mailgroup@xxxxxxx>>
wrote:
> >
> >     Spot on - the controller is a fully fledged computing device
(it
> >     runs and embeded Linux) so it's perfectly capable of being an
> >     independent xAP controller without SqueezeCenter being in the
> >     picture at all. That said, a standalone xAP implementation
would
> >     need to deal with it not being always on and indeed ensure
that it
> >     didn't require it to be on as that would kill the batteries
very
> >     quickly. So maybe a component of the solution does need to be
on
> >     the server - hmmm... more thought required on the
architecture.
> >
> >
>
------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >         *From:* xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> >         <mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx>
> >         [mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> >         <mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx>]
*On Behalf Of *rb_ziggy
> >         *Sent:* 13 July 2008 09:29
> >
> >         *To:* xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> >         <mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx>
> >         *Subject:* [xap_automation] Re: Squeezebox Duet
> >
> >         Well, that's fair enough.
> >
> >         I was hoping initially that we have a Squeezecenter V7
compatible
> >         interface so that an upgrade to a Duet box wouldn't
destroy the
> >         underlying ability to xAP interface other units (e.g.
> >         Squeezebox 3)
> >         when having to install Squeezecentre. This sounds like
exactly
> >         what
> >         you are aiming for:-)
> >
> >         Of course... it does get you thinking that with the
handset, an
> >         interface back to xAP could be possible (e.g. menu on the
> >         handset -
> >         with xAP commands issued from it such as - lights on/off
etc).
> But
> >         that is clearly not just functionality in Squeezecentre
> >         plugins but
> >         something for the handset itself.
> >
> >         Regards
> >
> >         Richard
> >
> >         --- In xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>>,
> "Edward Pearson"
> >         <edward.mailgroup@...> wrote:
> >         >
> >         > Before you get too excited (and folks' expectations
rise
> >         beyond what
> >         I can
> >         > deliver to) - the version that I'm just finishing up
includes
> no
> >         specific
> >         > Duet funtionality other than playing well with
SqueezeCenter
> v7.
> >         >
> >         > Happy to take suggestions on what Duet-specific
fuctionality
> >         might
> >         include
> >         > though...
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > _____
> >         >
> >         > From: xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >
> >         [mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >]
> >         > On Behalf Of rb_ziggy
> >         > Sent: 09 July 2008 22:15
> >         > To: xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >
> >         > Subject: [xap_automation] Re: Squeezebox Duet
> >         >
> >         >
> >         >
> >         > OH NO! That means I'm going to incur another HA
induced bill
> >         very
> >         > soon to acquire a Duet ;-)
> >         >
> >         > I'll watch out with interest.
> >         >
> >         > Richard
> >         >
> >         > --- In xap_automation@
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%252540yahoogroups.com>
> >>
> >         > yahoogroups.com <http://yahoogroups.com>, "Edward
Pearson"
> >         > <edward.mailgroup@> wrote:
> >         > >
> >         > > Working on it right now - fixing defects raised
by beta
> >         testers -
> >         > probably
> >         > > got 2 days more to do on it.
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > > _____
> >         > >
> >         > > From: xap_automation@
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%252540yahoogroups.com>
> >>
> >         > yahoogroups.com <http://yahoogroups.com>
> >         > [mailto:xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation@>
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%252540yahoogroups.com>
> >>
> >         > yahoogroups.com <http://yahoogroups.com>]
> >         > > On Behalf Of rb_ziggy
> >         > > Sent: 08 July 2008 20:53
> >         > > To: xap_automation@
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%252540yahoogroups.com>
> >>
> >         > yahoogroups.com <http://yahoogroups.com>
> >         > > Subject: [xap_automation] Re: Squeezebox Duet
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > >
> >         > > Any news on Slimcentre / Duet progress?
> >         > >
> >         > > Cheers
> >         > >
> >         > > --- In xap_automation@
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%252540yahoogroups.com>
> >>
> >         > > yahoogroups.com <http://yahoogroups.com>, "max
barker"
> >         <vworpi@> wrote:
> >         > > >
> >         > > > Edward,
> >         > > > Any update on the new plugin?
> >         > > >
> >         > > > Max
> >         > > >
> >         > > > On 05/02/2008, Edward Pearson
<edward.mailgroup@> wrote:
> >         > > > >
> >         > > > > Yes it will.
> >         > > > >
> >         > > > > I am working on the v7 (SlimCenter)
plugin right now.
> >         Hope to have
> >         > > it out
> >         > > > > in a week or so.
> >         > > > > I'm expecting Logitec to ship me Duet
beta hardware
> >         very soon now
> >         > > so I'll
> >         > > > > be able to test on that hardware.
> >         > > > > The initial verison will be a
like-for-like port of
> >         the current v6
> >         > > plugin.
> >         > > > > Then I'll be looking at enhancements
that specifically
> >         target
> >         > > SlimCenter
> >         > > > > features and also the possibilities
of the duet
> >         hardware (eg,
> >         > > using the
> >         > > > > remote for general home control
duties).
> >         > > > >
> >         > > > > ------------------------------
> >         > > > > *From:* xap_automation@
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%252540yahoogroups.com>
> >>
> >         > > yahoogroups.com <http://yahoogroups.com> [mailto:
> >         > > > > xap_automation@
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%252540yahoogroups.com>
> >>
> >         > > yahoogroups.com <http://yahoogroups.com>] *On Behalf Of
> >         *Kevin Hawkins
> >         > > > > *Sent:* 05 February 2008 00:29
> >         > > > > *To:* xap_automation@
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >         <mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%252540yahoogroups.com>
> >>
> >         > > yahoogroups.com <http://yahoogroups.com>
> >         > > > > *Subject:* Re: [xap_automation]
Squeezebox Duet
> >         > > > >
> >         > > > > Kevin Hawkins wrote:
> >         > > > > > The current xAP plugin works in
the current V6
> >         SlimServer but
> >         > not in
> >         > > > > > V7 which Duet will use. I
believe it's quite high on
> >         a list of
> >         > > > > > things to look at though.... and
fingers crossed the
> >         required
> >         > > changes
> >         > > > > > for V7 will not be too awkward.
> >         > > > > >
> >         > > > > > Kevin
> >         > > > > >
> >         > > > > > rb_ziggy wrote:
> >         > > > > >>
> >         > > > > >> Does anyone know if the new
Squeezebox Duet
> >         will/still supports
> >         > > xAP?
> >         > > > > >>
> >         > > > > >> I couldn't see a reference
in the specifications on
> the
> >         > Slimdevices
> >         > > > > >> site.
> >         > > > > >>
> >         > > > > >> Looks like a fantastic audio
option and at a price
> that
> >         massively
> >         > > > > >> undercuts Sonos. If it has
xAP, it could be even more
> >         > > interesting as
> >         > > > > >> a network controller.
> >         > > > > >>
> >         > > > > >> Regards
> >         > > > > >>
> >         > > > > >> Richard
> >         > > > > >>
> >         > > > > >>
> >         > > > >
> >         > > > >
> >         > > > >
> >         > > > >
> >         > > >
> >         > >
> >         >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> ------------------------------------
>
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>
>
>
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Hi Kevin,<br>I&#39;m not familiar with xServer, so I
don&#39;t understand the references to TCP connections
here.<br>I&#39;ve built, and run, a cache on my own network - but
it&#39;s not a very elegant solution. Maintaining the state on a
distributed basis is a very attractive solution, and as you point out,
it&#39;s not necessarily incompatible with low-end devices, as you
generally have to maintain the state of the device some how
anyway.<br>
I see the requirement to simply &#39;regurgitate&#39; the last
message (possibly, but not necessarily tied to a specific endpoint) as a
generic way of building &#39;status&#39; capability into all
devices without incurring a significant overhead.<br>
Patrick<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon,
Jul 14, 2008 at 12:25 PM, Kevin Hawkins &lt;<a href="mailto:yahoogroupskh@xxxxxxx";>yahoogroupskh@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt
0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;">
BSC naturally has a query abilty at the individual endpoint level -
such<br>
that an off device that awoke can immediately synch its state info.
&nbsp;For<br>
other xAP schema this could be useful although an endpoint might
present<br>
several different schema &nbsp;or not even use sub
addressing.<br>
<br>
It&#39;s an interesting idea, I wonder if a state/cache application
might be<br>
appropriate. &nbsp; Just at the moment I&#39;m re-writing the
xServer to allow<br>
for an attaching router client to setup on demand source/class
filter<br>
conditions . &nbsp;Within this there could be a need to provide a
small<br>
buffer for messages, which is a similar feature. &nbsp; This is because
the<br>
client is polling. &nbsp;It maybe that a TCP connection is maintainable
- but<br>
if not the buffer , or a recover status is needed.<br>
<br>
&nbsp; &nbsp;K<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d"><br>
Patrick Lidstone wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Perhaps this is a good time to chip in with my latest xAP
protocol<br>
&gt; wheeze - formalising the ability of a device to remember the
last<br>
&gt; message it sent on each endpoint, and providing for a
simple<br>
&gt; retransmission request. This would effectively generalise the
&#39;status&#39;<br>
&gt; capability to cover any message broadcast from any device by
xAP.<br>
&gt; There are some wrinkles to iron out - but it has promise,
especially<br>
&gt; when you have &#39;mostly off&#39; devices in
play.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; P.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Edward Pearson<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href="mailto:edward.mailgroup@xxxxxxx";>edward.mailgroup@xxxxxxx</a><br>
</div><div class="Ih2E3d">&gt;
&lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:edward.mailgroup@xxxxxxx";>edward.mailgroup@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;&gt;
wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; Spot on - the controller is a fully fledged
computing device (it<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; runs and embeded Linux) so it&#39;s
perfectly capable of being an<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; independent xAP controller without
SqueezeCenter being in the<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; picture at all. That said, a standalone xAP
implementation would<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; need to deal with it not being always on and
indeed ensure that it<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; didn&#39;t require it to be on as that
would kill the batteries very<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; quickly. So maybe a component of the
solution does need to be on<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; the server - hmmm... more thought required
on the architecture.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
------------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *From:* <a
href="mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx";>xap_automation@xxxxxxx</a><br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;mailto:<a
href="mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx";>xap_automation@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; [mailto:<a
href="mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx";>xap_automation@xxxxxxx</a><br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;mailto:<a
href="mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx";>xap_automation@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;]
*On Behalf Of *rb_ziggy<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *Sent:* 13 July 2008
09:29<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *To:* <a
href="mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx";>xap_automation@xxxxxxx</a><br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;mailto:<a
href="mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx";>xap_automation@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>
</div>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; *Subject:*
[xap_automation] Re: Squeezebox Duet<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Well, that&#39;s
fair enough.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I was hoping initially
that we have a Squeezecenter V7 compatible<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; interface so that an
upgrade to a Duet box wouldn&#39;t destroy the<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; underlying ability to
xAP interface other units (e.g.<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Squeezebox
3)<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; when having to install
Squeezecentre. This sounds like exactly<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; what<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; you are aiming
for:-)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Of course... it does
get you thinking that with the handset, an<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; interface back to xAP
could be possible (e.g. menu on the<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; handset -<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; with xAP commands
issued from it such as - lights on/off etc). But<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; that is clearly not
just functionality in Squeezecentre<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; plugins but<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; something for the
handset itself.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Regards<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Richard<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; --- In <a
href="mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx";>xap_automation@xxxxxxx</a><br>
</div>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com";>xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;,
&quot;Edward Pearson&quot;<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;edward.mailgroup@...&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; Before you
get too excited (and folks&#39; expectations rise<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; beyond what<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; I can<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; deliver to) -
the version that I&#39;m just finishing up includes no<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; specific<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; Duet
funtionality other than playing well with SqueezeCenter v7.<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; Happy to take
suggestions on what Duet-specific fuctionality<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; might<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; include<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;
though...<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;
_____<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; From: <a
href="mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx";>xap_automation@xxxxxxx</a><br>
</div>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com";>xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; [mailto:<a href="mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx";>xap_automation@xxxxxxx</a><br>
</div>&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com";>xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;]<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; On Behalf Of rb_ziggy<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; Sent: 09 July
2008 22:15<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; To: <a
href="mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx";>xap_automation@xxxxxxx</a><br>
</div><div class="Ih2E3d">&gt; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;mailto:<a href="mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com";>xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; Subject:
[xap_automation] Re: Squeezebox Duet<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; OH NO! That
means I&#39;m going to incur another HA induced bill<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; very<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; soon to
acquire a Duet ;-)<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; I&#39;ll
watch out with interest.<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;
Richard<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; --- In
xap_automation@<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &lt;mailto:<a
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&quot;Edward Pearson&quot;<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &lt;edward.mailgroup@&gt;
wrote:<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
Working on it right now - fixing defects raised by beta<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; testers -<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;
probably<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt; got
2 days more to do on it.<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
_____<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
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&nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt; On Behalf Of rb_ziggy<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
Sent: 08 July 2008 20:53<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt; To:
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<div class="Ih2E3d">&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt; Subject: [xap_automation] Re:
Squeezebox Duet<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt; Any
news on Slimcentre / Duet progress?<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
Cheers<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt; ---
In xap_automation@<br>
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&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
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target="_blank">yahoogroups.com</a> &lt;<a
href="http://yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">http://yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;,
&quot;max barker&quot;<br>
<div><div></div><div
class="Wj3C7c">&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &lt;vworpi@&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; Edward,<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; Any update on the new plugin?<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; Max<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; On 05/02/2008, Edward Pearson &lt;edward.mailgroup@&gt;
wrote:<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Yes it will.<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I am working on the v7 (SlimCenter) plugin right
now.<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Hope to have<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt; it
out<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; in a week or so.<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; I&#39;m expecting Logitec to ship me Duet beta
hardware<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; very soon
now<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt; so
I&#39;ll<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; be able to test on that hardware.<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; The initial verison will be a like-for-like port
of<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; the current
v6<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
plugin.<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Then I&#39;ll be looking at enhancements that
specifically<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; target<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
SlimCenter<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; features and also the possibilities of the duet<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; hardware
(eg,<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
using the<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; remote for general home control duties).<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; ------------------------------<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; *From:* xap_automation@<br>
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*On Behalf Of<br>
<div class="Ih2E3d">&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &nbsp; *Kevin Hawkins<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; *Sent:* 05 February 2008 00:29<br>
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<div><div></div><div
class="Wj3C7c">&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;
&nbsp; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; *Subject:* Re:
[xap_automation] Squeezebox Duet<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Kevin Hawkins wrote:<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; The current xAP plugin works in the current
V6<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; SlimServer
but<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; not
in<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; V7 which Duet will use. I believe it&#39;s
quite high on<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; a list of<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; things to look at though.... and fingers crossed
the<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; required<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
changes<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; for V7 will not be too awkward.<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Kevin<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; rb_ziggy wrote:<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Does anyone know if the new Squeezebox
Duet<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; will/still
supports<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
xAP?<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; I couldn&#39;t see a reference in
the specifications on the<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;
Slimdevices<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; site.<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Looks like a fantastic audio option and
at a price that<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; massively<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; undercuts Sonos. If it has xAP, it could
be even more<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
interesting as<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; a network controller.<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Regards<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Richard<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt; &gt;
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;
&gt;<br>
&gt; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
<br>
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