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Perhaps this is a good time to chip in with my latest xAP protocol wheeze -
formalising the ability of a device to remember the last message it sent on
each endpoint, and providing for a simple retransmission request. This
would
effectively generalise the 'status' capability to cover any message
broadcast from any device by xAP. There are some wrinkles to iron out - but
it has promise, especially when you have 'mostly off' devices in play.
P.
On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Edward Pearson <
edward.mailgroup@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Spot on - the controller is a fully fledged computing device (it runs
and
> embeded Linux) so it's perfectly capable of being an independent xAP
> controller without SqueezeCenter being in the picture at all. That
said, a
> standalone xAP implementation would need to deal with it not being
always on
> and indeed ensure that it didn't require it to be on as that would
kill the
> batteries very quickly. So maybe a component of the solution does need
to be
> on the server - hmmm... more thought required on the architecture.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* xap_automation@xxxxxxx [mailto:
> xap_automation@xxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of *rb_ziggy
> *Sent:* 13 July 2008 09:29
>
> *To:* xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> *Subject:* [xap_automation] Re: Squeezebox Duet
>
> Well, that's fair enough.
>
> I was hoping initially that we have a Squeezecenter V7 compatible
> interface so that an upgrade to a Duet box wouldn't destroy the
> underlying ability to xAP interface other units (e.g. Squeezebox 3)
> when having to install Squeezecentre. This sounds like exactly what
> you are aiming for:-)
>
> Of course... it does get you thinking that with the handset, an
> interface back to xAP could be possible (e.g. menu on the handset -
> with xAP commands issued from it such as - lights on/off etc). But
> that is clearly not just functionality in Squeezecentre plugins but
> something for the handset itself.
>
> Regards
>
> Richard
>
> --- In xap_automation@xxxxxxx
<xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>,
> "Edward Pearson"
> <edward.mailgroup@...> wrote:
> >
> > Before you get too excited (and folks' expectations rise beyond
what
> I can
> > deliver to) - the version that I'm just finishing up includes no
> specific
> > Duet funtionality other than playing well with SqueezeCenter v7.
> >
> > Happy to take suggestions on what Duet-specific fuctionality
might
> include
> > though...
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: xap_automation@xxxxxxx
<xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx
<xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>]
> > On Behalf Of rb_ziggy
> > Sent: 09 July 2008 22:15
> > To: xap_automation@xxxxxxx
<xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [xap_automation] Re: Squeezebox Duet
> >
> >
> >
> > OH NO! That means I'm going to incur another HA induced bill very
> > soon to acquire a Duet ;-)
> >
> > I'll watch out with interest.
> >
> > Richard
> >
> > --- In xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > yahoogroups.com, "Edward Pearson"
> > <edward.mailgroup@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Working on it right now - fixing defects raised by beta
testers -
> > probably
> > > got 2 days more to do on it.
> > >
> > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > > From: xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > yahoogroups.com]
> > > On Behalf Of rb_ziggy
> > > Sent: 08 July 2008 20:53
> > > To: xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > yahoogroups.com
> > > Subject: [xap_automation] Re: Squeezebox Duet
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Any news on Slimcentre / Duet progress?
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > > --- In xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > > yahoogroups.com, "max barker" <vworpi@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Edward,
> > > > Any update on the new plugin?
> > > >
> > > > Max
> > > >
> > > > On 05/02/2008, Edward Pearson <edward.mailgroup@>
wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yes it will.
> > > > >
> > > > > I am working on the v7 (SlimCenter) plugin right
now. Hope to have
> > > it out
> > > > > in a week or so.
> > > > > I'm expecting Logitec to ship me Duet beta
hardware very soon now
> > > so I'll
> > > > > be able to test on that hardware.
> > > > > The initial verison will be a like-for-like port
of the current v6
> > > plugin.
> > > > > Then I'll be looking at enhancements that
specifically target
> > > SlimCenter
> > > > > features and also the possibilities of the duet
hardware (eg,
> > > using the
> > > > > remote for general home control duties).
> > > > >
> > > > > ------------------------------
> > > > > *From:* xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > > yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> > > > > xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > > yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Kevin Hawkins
> > > > > *Sent:* 05 February 2008 00:29
> > > > > *To:* xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com<xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com>
> >
> > > yahoogroups.com
> > > > > *Subject:* Re: [xap_automation] Squeezebox Duet
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin Hawkins wrote:
> > > > > > The current xAP plugin works in the current
V6 SlimServer but
> > not in
> > > > > > V7 which Duet will use. I believe it's quite
high on a list of
> > > > > > things to look at though.... and fingers
crossed the required
> > > changes
> > > > > > for V7 will not be too awkward.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Kevin
> > > > > >
> > > > > > rb_ziggy wrote:
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Does anyone know if the new Squeezebox
Duet will/still supports
> > > xAP?
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> I couldn't see a reference in the
specifications on the
> > Slimdevices
> > > > > >> site.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Looks like a fantastic audio option and
at a price that
> massively
> > > > > >> undercuts Sonos. If it has xAP, it could
be even more
> > > interesting as
> > > > > >> a network controller.
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Regards
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >> Richard
> > > > > >>
> > > > > >>
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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Perhaps this is a good time to chip in with my latest xAP protocol wheeze -
formalising the ability of a device to remember the last message it sent on
each endpoint, and providing for a simple retransmission request. This
would effectively generalise the 'status' capability to
cover any message broadcast from any device by xAP. There are some wrinkles
to iron out - but it has promise, especially when you have 'mostly
off' devices in play.<br>
<br>P.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On
Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Edward Pearson <<a href="mailto:edward.mailgroup@xxxxxxx";>edward.mailgroup@xxxxxxx</a>>
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote"
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<div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font
size="2" color="#0000ff" face="Arial">Spot
on - the controller is a fully fledged computing
device (it runs and embeded Linux) so it's perfectly capable of
being an
independent xAP controller without SqueezeCenter being in the
picture at
all. That said, a standalone xAP implementation would need to deal with it
not
being always on and indeed ensure that it didn't require it to be
on as that
would kill the batteries very quickly. So maybe a component of the solution
does
need to be on the server - hmmm... more thought required on the
architecture.</font></span></div><br>
<blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(0, 0, 255);
padding-left: 5px; margin-left: 5px; margin-right: 0px;">
<div dir="ltr" align="left"
lang="en-us">
<hr>
<font size="2" face="Tahoma"><div
class="Ih2E3d"><b>From:</b> <a href="mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx";
target="_blank">xap_automation@xxxxxxx</a>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx";
target="_blank">xap_automation@xxxxxxx</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of
</b>rb_ziggy<br></div><b>Sent:</b> 13 July
2008 09:29<div><div></div><div
class="Wj3C7c"><br><b>To:</b>
<a href="mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx";
target="_blank">xap_automation@xxxxxxx</a><br><b>Subject:</b>
[xap_automation] Re:
Squeezebox
Duet<br></div></div></font><br></div><div><div></div><div
class="Wj3C7c">
<div></div>
<div>
<p>Well, that's fair enough. <br><br>I was hoping
initially that we have a
Squeezecenter V7 compatible<br>interface so that an upgrade to a Duet
box
wouldn't destroy the<br>underlying ability to xAP interface
other units (e.g.
Squeezebox 3)<br>when having to install Squeezecentre. This sounds
like
exactly what<br>you are aiming for:-)<br><br>Of course...
it does get you
thinking that with the handset, an<br>interface back to xAP could be
possible
(e.g. menu on the handset -<br>with xAP commands issued from it such
as -
lights on/off etc). But<br>that is clearly not just functionality in
Squeezecentre plugins but<br>something for the handset itself.
<br><br>Regards
<br><br>Richard <br><br>--- In <a href="mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">xap_automation@xxxxxxx</a>,
"Edward
Pearson"<br><edward.mailgroup@...>
wrote:<br>><br>>
Before you get too excited (and folks' expectations rise beyond
what<br>I
can<br>> deliver to) - the version that I'm just
finishing up includes
no<br>specific<br>> Duet funtionality other than playing
well with
SqueezeCenter v7.<br>> <br>> Happy to take
suggestions on what
Duet-specific fuctionality might<br>include<br>>
though...<br>> <br>>
<br>> _____ <br>> <br>> From: <a
href="mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">xap_automation@xxxxxxx</a><br>[mailto:<a
href="mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">xap_automation@xxxxxxx</a>]<br>
>
On Behalf Of rb_ziggy<br>> Sent: 09 July 2008
22:15<br>> To: <a href="mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">xap_automation@xxxxxxx</a><br>>
Subject: [xap_automation] Re: Squeezebox Duet<br>>
<br>> <br>>
<br>> OH NO! That means I'm going to incur another HA
induced bill
very<br>> soon to acquire a Duet ;-)<br>>
<br>> I'll watch out with
interest.<br>> <br>> Richard<br>>
<br>> --- In xap_automation@
<mailto:<a href="mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com</a>><br>>
<a href="http://yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">yahoogroups.com</a>, "Edward
Pearson"<br>> <edward.mailgroup@>
wrote:<br>> ><br>> > Working on it
right now - fixing defects
raised by beta testers -<br>> probably<br>>
> got 2 days more to do
on it.<br>> > <br>> >
<br>> > _____ <br>> >
<br>>
> From: xap_automation@
<mailto:<a href="mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com</a>><br>>
<a href="http://yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">yahoogroups.com</a><br>>
[mailto:<a href="mailto:xap_automation@";
target="_blank">xap_automation@</a>
<mailto:<a href="mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com</a>><br>>
<a href="http://yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">yahoogroups.com</a>]<br>>
> On Behalf Of rb_ziggy<br>> > Sent: 08
July 2008 20:53<br>> > To: xap_automation@
<mailto:<a href="mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com</a>><br>>
<a href="http://yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">yahoogroups.com</a><br>>
> Subject: [xap_automation] Re: Squeezebox
Duet<br>> > <br>> >
<br>> > <br>> > Any news on
Slimcentre / Duet progress? <br>> > <br>>
> Cheers<br>> >
<br>> > --- In xap_automation@
<mailto:<a href="mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com</a>><br>>
>
<a href="http://yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">yahoogroups.com</a>, "max
barker" <vworpi@> wrote:<br>> >
><br>> > > Edward,<br>>
> > Any update on the new
plugin?<br>> > > <br>> >
> Max<br>> > > <br>>
> > On 05/02/2008, Edward Pearson
<edward.mailgroup@>
wrote:<br>> > > ><br>>
> > > Yes it will.<br>> >
> ><br>> > > > I am working
on the v7 (SlimCenter) plugin
right now. Hope to have<br>> > it out<br>>
> > > in a week
or so.<br>> > > > I'm expecting
Logitec to ship me Duet beta
hardware very soon now<br>> > so
I'll<br>> > > > be able to
test on that hardware.<br>> > > > The
initial verison will be a
like-for-like port of the current v6<br>> >
plugin.<br>> > >
> Then I'll be looking at enhancements that specifically
target<br>>
> SlimCenter<br>> > > > features
and also the possibilities of
the duet hardware (eg,<br>> > using
the<br>> > > > remote
for general home control duties).<br>> > >
><br>> > >
> ------------------------------<br>> > >
> *From:*
xap_automation@
<mailto:<a href="mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com</a>><br>>
>
<a href="http://yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">yahoogroups.com</a>
[mailto:<br>> > > > xap_automation@
<mailto:<a href="mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com</a>><br>>
>
<a href="http://yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">yahoogroups.com</a>] *On Behalf Of
*Kevin Hawkins<br>> > > >
*Sent:* 05 February 2008 00:29<br>> > > >
*To:* xap_automation@
<mailto:<a href="mailto:xap_automation%2540yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com</a>><br>>
>
<a href="http://yahoogroups.com";
target="_blank">yahoogroups.com</a><br>>
> > > *Subject:* Re: [xap_automation]
Squeezebox Duet<br>> > >
><br>> > > > Kevin Hawkins
wrote:<br>> > > > > The current
xAP plugin works in the current
V6 SlimServer but<br>> not in<br>> >
> > > V7 which Duet
will use. I believe it's quite high on a list of<br>>
> > > >
things to look at though.... and fingers crossed the
required<br>> >
changes<br>> > > > > for V7 will
not be too awkward.<br>>
> > > ><br>> > >
> > Kevin<br>> > > >
><br>> > > > > rb_ziggy
wrote:<br>> > > >
>><br>> > > >
>> Does anyone know if the new
Squeezebox Duet will/still supports<br>> >
xAP?<br>> > > >
>><br>> > > >
>> I couldn't see a reference in the
specifications on the<br>> Slimdevices<br>>
> > > >>
site.<br>> > > >
>><br>> > > >
>> Looks
like a fantastic audio option and at a price
that<br>massively<br>> >
> > >> undercuts Sonos. If it has xAP, it could
be even
more<br>> > interesting as<br>> >
> > >> a network
controller.<br>> > > >
>><br>> > > >
>>
Regards<br>> > > >
>><br>> > > >
>>
Richard<br>> > > >
>><br>> > > >
>><br>> > >
><br>> > > > <br>>
> >
><br>> > > ><br>>
> ><br>>
><br>><br><br></p></div></div></div></blockquote>
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