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RE: Re: Squeezebox Duet



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Spot on - the controller is a fully fledged computing device (it runs and
embeded Linux) so it's perfectly capable of being an independent xAP
controller without SqueezeCenter being in the picture at all. That said, a
standalone xAP implementation would need to deal with it not being always
on
and indeed ensure that it didn't require it to be on as that would kill the
batteries very quickly. So maybe a component of the solution does need to
be
on the server - hmmm... more thought required on the architecture.


_____

From: xap_automation@xxxxxxx [mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of rb_ziggy
Sent: 13 July 2008 09:29
To: xap_automation@xxxxxxx
Subject: [xap_automation] Re: Squeezebox Duet



Well, that's fair enough.

I was hoping initially that we have a Squeezecenter V7 compatible
interface so that an upgrade to a Duet box wouldn't destroy the
underlying ability to xAP interface other units (e.g. Squeezebox 3)
when having to install Squeezecentre. This sounds like exactly what
you are aiming for:-)

Of course... it does get you thinking that with the handset, an
interface back to xAP could be possible (e.g. menu on the handset -
with xAP commands issued from it such as - lights on/off etc). But
that is clearly not just functionality in Squeezecentre plugins but
something for the handset itself.

Regards

Richard

--- In xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com, "Edward Pearson"
<edward.mailgroup@...> wrote:
>
> Before you get too excited (and folks' expectations rise beyond what
I can
> deliver to) - the version that I'm just finishing up includes no
specific
> Duet funtionality other than playing well with SqueezeCenter v7.
>
> Happy to take suggestions on what Duet-specific fuctionality might
include
> though...
>
>
> _____
>
> From: xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
[mailto:xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of rb_ziggy
> Sent: 09 July 2008 22:15
> To: xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [xap_automation] Re: Squeezebox Duet
>
>
>
> OH NO! That means I'm going to incur another HA induced bill very
> soon to acquire a Duet ;-)
>
> I'll watch out with interest.
>
> Richard
>
> --- In xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com, "Edward Pearson"
> <edward.mailgroup@> wrote:
> >
> > Working on it right now - fixing defects raised by beta testers -
> probably
> > got 2 days more to do on it.
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com]
> > On Behalf Of rb_ziggy
> > Sent: 08 July 2008 20:53
> > To: xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
> yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [xap_automation] Re: Squeezebox Duet
> >
> >
> >
> > Any news on Slimcentre / Duet progress?
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > --- In xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
> > yahoogroups.com, "max barker" <vworpi@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Edward,
> > > Any update on the new plugin?
> > >
> > > Max
> > >
> > > On 05/02/2008, Edward Pearson <edward.mailgroup@>
wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yes it will.
> > > >
> > > > I am working on the v7 (SlimCenter) plugin right now.
Hope to have
> > it out
> > > > in a week or so.
> > > > I'm expecting Logitec to ship me Duet beta hardware
very soon now
> > so I'll
> > > > be able to test on that hardware.
> > > > The initial verison will be a like-for-like port of the
current v6
> > plugin.
> > > > Then I'll be looking at enhancements that specifically
target
> > SlimCenter
> > > > features and also the possibilities of the duet
hardware (eg,
> > using the
> > > > remote for general home control duties).
> > > >
> > > > ------------------------------
> > > > *From:* xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
> > yahoogroups.com [mailto:
> > > > xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
> > yahoogroups.com] *On Behalf Of *Kevin Hawkins
> > > > *Sent:* 05 February 2008 00:29
> > > > *To:* xap_automation@ <mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com>
> > yahoogroups.com
> > > > *Subject:* Re: [xap_automation] Squeezebox Duet
> > > >
> > > > Kevin Hawkins wrote:
> > > > > The current xAP plugin works in the current V6
SlimServer but
> not in
> > > > > V7 which Duet will use. I believe it's quite high
on a list of
> > > > > things to look at though.... and fingers crossed
the required
> > changes
> > > > > for V7 will not be too awkward.
> > > > >
> > > > > Kevin
> > > > >
> > > > > rb_ziggy wrote:
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Does anyone know if the new Squeezebox Duet
will/still supports
> > xAP?
> > > > >>
> > > > >> I couldn't see a reference in the
specifications on the
> Slimdevices
> > > > >> site.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Looks like a fantastic audio option and at a
price that
massively
> > > > >> undercuts Sonos. If it has xAP, it could be
even more
> > interesting as
> > > > >> a network controller.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Regards
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Richard
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>






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<DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=424103523-13072008><FONT
face=Arial
color=#0000ff size=2>Spot on - the controller is a fully fledged
computing
device (it runs and embeded Linux) so it's perfectly capable of being an
independent&nbsp;xAP controller without SqueezeCenter being in the
picture at
all. That said, a standalone xAP implementation would need to deal with it
not
being always on and indeed ensure that it didn't require it to be on as
that
would kill the batteries very quickly. So maybe a component of the solution
does
need to be on the server - hmmm... more thought required on the
architecture.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>
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style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px
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<FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B>
xap_automation@xxxxxxx
[mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx]
<B>On Behalf Of
</B>rb_ziggy<BR><B>Sent:</B> 13 July 2008
09:29<BR><B>To:</B>
xap_automation@xxxxxxx<BR><B>Subject:</B>
[xap_automation] Re:
Squeezebox Duet<BR></FONT><BR></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV id=ygrp-text>
<P>Well, that's fair enough. <BR><BR>I was hoping
initially that we have a
Squeezecenter V7 compatible<BR>interface so that an upgrade to a Duet
box
wouldn't destroy the<BR>underlying ability to xAP interface other
units (e.g.
Squeezebox 3)<BR>when having to install Squeezecentre. This sounds
like
exactly what<BR>you are aiming for:-)<BR><BR>Of course...
it does get you
thinking that with the handset, an<BR>interface back to xAP could be
possible
(e.g. menu on the handset -<BR>with xAP commands issued from it such
as -
lights on/off etc). But<BR>that is clearly not just functionality in
Squeezecentre plugins but<BR>something for the handset itself.
<BR><BR>Regards
<BR><BR>Richard <BR><BR>--- In <A
href="mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com";>xap_automation@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A>,
"Edward
Pearson"<BR>&lt;edward.mailgroup@<WBR>...&gt;
wrote:<BR>&gt;<BR>&gt;
Before you get too excited (and folks' expectations rise beyond
what<BR>I
can<BR>&gt; deliver to) - the version that I'm just finishing up
includes
no<BR>specific<BR>&gt; Duet funtionality other than playing
well with
SqueezeCenter v7.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Happy to take
suggestions on what
Duet-specific fuctionality might<BR>include<BR>&gt;
though...<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
<BR>&gt; _____ <BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; From: <A
href="mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com";>xap_automation@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A><BR>[mailto:<A
href="mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com";>xap_automation@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A>]<BR>&gt;
On Behalf Of rb_ziggy<BR>&gt; Sent: 09 July 2008
22:15<BR>&gt; To: <A
href="mailto:xap_automation%40yahoogroups.com";>xap_automation@<WBR>yahoogroups.<WBR>com</A><BR>&gt;
Subject: [xap_automation] Re: Squeezebox Duet<BR>&gt;
<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt;
<BR>&gt; OH NO! That means I'm going to incur another HA induced
bill
very<BR>&gt; soon to acquire a Duet ;-)<BR>&gt;
<BR>&gt; I'll watch out with
interest.<BR>&gt; <BR>&gt; Richard<BR>&gt;
<BR>&gt; --- In xap_automation@
&lt;mailto:xap_<WBR>automation%<WBR>40yahoogroups.<WBR>com&gt;<BR>&gt;
yahoogroups.<WBR>com, "Edward Pearson"<BR>&gt;
&lt;edward.mailgroup@<WBR>&gt;
wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; Working on it
right now - fixing defects
raised by beta testers -<BR>&gt; probably<BR>&gt;
&gt; got 2 days more to do
on it.<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;
<BR>&gt; &gt; _____ <BR>&gt; &gt;
<BR>&gt;
&gt; From: xap_automation@
&lt;mailto:xap_<WBR>automation%<WBR>40yahoogroups.<WBR>com&gt;<BR>&gt;
yahoogroups.<WBR>com<BR>&gt; [mailto:xap_<WBR>automation@
&lt;mailto:xap_<WBR>automation%<WBR>40yahoogroups.<WBR>com&gt;<BR>&gt;
yahoogroups.<WBR>com]<BR>&gt; &gt; On Behalf Of
rb_ziggy<BR>&gt; &gt; Sent: 08
July 2008 20:53<BR>&gt; &gt; To: xap_automation@
&lt;mailto:xap_<WBR>automation%<WBR>40yahoogroups.<WBR>com&gt;<BR>&gt;
yahoogroups.<WBR>com<BR>&gt; &gt; Subject:
[xap_automation] Re: Squeezebox
Duet<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;
<BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt; Any news on
Slimcentre / Duet progress? <BR>&gt; &gt; <BR>&gt;
&gt; Cheers<BR>&gt; &gt;
<BR>&gt; &gt; --- In xap_automation@
&lt;mailto:xap_<WBR>automation%<WBR>40yahoogroups.<WBR>com&gt;<BR>&gt;
&gt;
yahoogroups.<WBR>com, "max barker" &lt;vworpi@&gt;
wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt;
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; Edward,<BR>&gt;
&gt; &gt; Any update on the new
plugin?<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt; &gt;
&gt; Max<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt;
&gt; &gt; On 05/02/2008, Edward Pearson
&lt;edward.mailgroup@<WBR>&gt;
wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; Yes it will.<BR>&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I am working
on the v7 (SlimCenter) plugin
right now. Hope to have<BR>&gt; &gt; it out<BR>&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; in a week
or so.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; I'm expecting Logitec
to ship me Duet beta
hardware very soon now<BR>&gt; &gt; so I'll<BR>&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; be able to
test on that hardware.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The
initial verison will be a
like-for-like port of the current v6<BR>&gt; &gt;
plugin.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; Then I'll be looking at enhancements that specifically
target<BR>&gt;
&gt; SlimCenter<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; features
and also the possibilities of
the duet hardware (eg,<BR>&gt; &gt; using
the<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; remote
for general home control duties).<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;
------------<WBR>---------<WBR>---------<BR>&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; *From:*
xap_automation@
&lt;mailto:xap_<WBR>automation%<WBR>40yahoogroups.<WBR>com&gt;<BR>&gt;
&gt;
yahoogroups.<WBR>com [mailto:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; xap_automation@
&lt;mailto:xap_<WBR>automation%<WBR>40yahoogroups.<WBR>com&gt;<BR>&gt;
&gt;
yahoogroups.<WBR>com] *On Behalf Of *Kevin Hawkins<BR>&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;
*Sent:* 05 February 2008 00:29<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
*To:* xap_automation@
&lt;mailto:xap_<WBR>automation%<WBR>40yahoogroups.<WBR>com&gt;<BR>&gt;
&gt;
yahoogroups.<WBR>com<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
*Subject:* Re: [xap_automation]
Squeezebox Duet<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; Kevin Hawkins
wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; The current
xAP plugin works in the current
V6 SlimServer but<BR>&gt; not in<BR>&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; V7 which Duet
will use. I believe it's quite high on a list of<BR>&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;
things to look at though.... and fingers crossed the
required<BR>&gt; &gt;
changes<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; for V7 will
not be too awkward.<BR>&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; Kevin<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; rb_ziggy
wrote:<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; Does anyone know if the new
Squeezebox Duet will/still supports<BR>&gt; &gt;
xAP?<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; I couldn't see a reference in the
specifications on the<BR>&gt; Slimdevices<BR>&gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;&gt;
site.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt; Looks
like a fantastic audio option and at a price
that<BR>massively<BR>&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; undercuts Sonos. If it has xAP, it could
be even
more<BR>&gt; &gt; interesting as<BR>&gt; &gt;
&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; a network
controller.<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;
Regards<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;
Richard<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt;
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt; <BR>&gt;
&gt; &gt;
&gt;<BR>&gt; &gt; &gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;
&gt; &gt;<BR>&gt;
&gt;<BR>&gt;<BR><BR></P></DIV><!--End
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