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RE: xAP DMX control?



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I don=92t know yet =96 I=92m planning on using CBus in the new loft, so I=
=92ll need to link it into that somehow.

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I=92m also using HomeSeer and HomeVision (which I=92ll probably get one of
=
Kevins hardware CBus/xAP addons for).

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Paul.=20

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From: xap_automation@xxxxxxx [mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx=
] On Behalf Of Lehane Kellett
Sent: 30 October 2006 19:30
To: xap_automation@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [xap_automation] xAP DMX control?

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Should be easy enough. Check the tubes give full RGB control - I have one
w=
hich only allows selection of the preset scenes.

What xAP app are you going to use to drive it? As you may have gathered
I'm=
using Floorplan and that has scenes built in.

Lehane



Paul Gale wrote:=20

COOL!=20

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Yes =96 that did surprise me =96 although I did remember something at the
b=
ack of my mind.=20

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Lehane =96 how easy is it to set scenes using this =96 for instance,
I=92ve=
seen some RGB LED lighting tubes that are DMX controlled. In the first ins=
tance, I=92d want simple control over a few (3-4) colour scenes (static
col=
our and intensity) and then maybe one or two wacky party modes (no LSD
thou=
gh!!!)=20

=20=20

Paul.=20

=20=20

From: xap_automation@ yahoogroups. com [mailto:xap_ automation@ yahoogroups=
. com] On Behalf Of Lehane Kellett
Sent: 30 October 2006 18:19
To: xap_automation@ yahoogroups. com
Subject: Re: [xap_automation] xAP DMX control?=20

=20=20

Absolutely!

http://honeycottage
.mm-wave. com/dmx512. htm <http://honeycottage.mm-wave.=
com/dmx512.htm>=20

It runs 80% of the lighting in the house via a number of dimmer packs.

Lehane



Paul Gale wrote:=20

Is there such a thing as xAP DMX control =96 or a way to do it?=20

Paul.=20

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face=3DArial><span style=
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I don=92t know yet =96 I=92m
planning =
on using
CBus in the new loft, so I=92ll need to link it into that
somehow.<o:p></o:=
p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span style=
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy
face=3DArial><span style=
=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I=92m also using HomeSeer and
HomeVisi=
on
(which I=92ll probably get one of Kevins hardware CBus/xAP addons
for).<o:p=
></o:p></span></font></p>

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t;
font-family:Arial'>Paul.</span></font>
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:windowtext;font-weight:b=
old'>From:</span></font></b><font
size=3D2 color=3Dblack face=3DTahoma><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-f=
amily:Tahoma;
color:windowtext'> xap_automation@xxxxxxx
[mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx]
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'=
>On
Behalf Of </span></b>Lehane Kellett<br>
<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 30 October 2006
19:30<=
br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
xap_automation@yahoogrou=
ps.com<br>
<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re:
[xap_automation=
] xAP
DMX control?</span></font><font color=3Dblack><span
style=3D'color:windowte=
xt'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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face=3D"Times New Roman">=
<span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack
face=3D"Times New Roman">=
<span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Should be easy enough. Check the tubes give
full=
RGB
control - I have one which only allows selection of the preset
scenes.<br>
<br>
What xAP app are you going to use to drive it? As you may have gathered I'm
using Floorplan and that has scenes built in.<br>
<br>
Lehane<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Paul Gale wrote:
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Roman"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:12.0pt'>
<meta http-equiv=3DContext-Type content=3D"text/html;
charset=3DWindows-125=
2">
COOL! <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New
Roman"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New
Roman"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:12.0pt'>Yes
=96 that did surprise me =96 although I did remember something at the back
=
of my
mind. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New
Roman"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New
Roman"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:12.0pt'>Lehane
=96 how easy is it to set scenes using this =96 for instance, I=92ve seen
s=
ome RGB
LED lighting tubes that are DMX controlled. In the first instance, I=92d
wa=
nt
simple control over a few (3-4) colour scenes (static colour and
intensity)=
and
then maybe one or two wacky party modes (no LSD though!!!)
<o:p></o:p></spa=
n></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New
Roman"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New
Roman"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:12.0pt'>Paul.
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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Roman"><span style=3D'fon=
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<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p><b><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New
Roman"><span style=3D'=
font-size:
12.0pt;font-weight:bold'>From:
</span></font></b>xap_automation@ yahoogroup=
s.
com [<a href=3D"mailto:xap_";>mailto:xap_</a> automation@ yahoogroups. com]
=
<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Lehane
Kellett<br>
<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> 30 October 2006
18:19<=
br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b>
xap_automation@ yahoogro=
ups.
com<br>
<b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re:
[xap_automation=
] xAP
DMX control? <o:p></o:p></p>

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<p><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New
Roman"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:12.0pt'>&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New
Roman"><span style=3D'fon=
t-size:12.0pt'>Absolutely!<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"http://honeycottage.mm-wave.com/dmx512.htm";>http://honeycottage
.mm-wave. com/dmx512. htm</a><br>
<br>
It runs 80% of the lighting in the house via a number of dimmer
packs.<br>
<br>
Lehane<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Paul Gale wrote:
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack face=3D"Times New
Roman"><span lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Is there such a thing as xAP DMX control =96
or =
a way to
do it? </span><o:p></o:p></font></p>

<p><a name=3D""><font size=3D3 color=3Dblack
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lang=3DEN-GB
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'>Paul.
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