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RE: xAP Asterisk integration


  • Subject: RE: xAP Asterisk integration
  • From: "Paul Gale" <groups@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  • Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2005 08:33:02 +0100

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Hi Greg,

First of all, I don't consider myself an Asterisk expert - I do have it
run=
ning with a Sipura SPA-3000 though, which was a feat in itself! I'm using
t=
he Asterisk@Home package.

To be honest, I've not really thought in great detail what I want to
achiev=
e but these are some of the areas:

*	Call logging: I currently use James' xAPSwitchBoard which is really
great=
. I currently have both PSTN and Skype calls logged using this and a
couple=
of Meteor's but it would be nice to allow some integration with Asterisk c=
alls, especially other incoming/outgoing VOIP calls.
*	Calling from xAPSwitchBoard: There is an option to call out from the
cont=
acts and log screen - would be nice to maybe integrate this with Asterisk?
*	IVR menus: One of my original goals with Asterisk was to build some
inter=
active voice response menus to speak the status of various systems at home
=
such as alarm status, history etc as a direct replacement for my Comfort
re=
mote menus. It would also allow control of certain HA functions - heating,
=
curtains etc. I'm not sure whether this needs the xAP Asterisk support
thou=
gh or is possible already?
*	Better voices: I currently use NeoSpeech voices at home which are pretty
=
good. Is there some way to generate TTS on a remote PC/Server and then
feed=
it back to Asterisk - again, maybe not a xAP Asterisk function? I'd be int=
erested in what you currently do here.
*	Control of HA devices depending on where a call is answered - i.e. an
inc=
oming call is answered in my office (certain asterisk extension). Via a
xAP=
message, I can then mute or pause playback of audio playing through the wh=
ole house audio system or just mute that room.

I'm sure others will come up with a better thought out list - these were
ju=
st off the top of my head.

Paul.


> -----Original Message-----
> From: xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> [mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Gregg Liming
> Sent: 20 July 2005 03:28
> To: xap_automation@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [xap_automation] xAP Asterisk integration
>=20
> Paul Gale wrote:
>=20
> > Is anyone in a position to be able to look at writing some xAP
support
> > for Asterisk?
> >
> > I know Patrick Lidstone did something a while ago but he seems to
have
> > disappeared without trace L
> >
> Hi Paul,
>=20
>    Since no one else has responded, I'll give it a try.  Can you
> elaborate what you want/expect in the way of "...support for
Asterisk"?
> I'm thinking along 2 categories: (1) function and (2) interface.  CID
is
> a rather obvious example of function.  Call logging and VMI
notification
> might be another.  The second category is specific to asterisk: AGI or
> manager interface.  IMO, the issue here is both what it possible and
> what level of control the user wants (or, just as aptly, doesn't
want).
> I'm rather assuming that as an asterisk user that you're familiar w/
> both and their pros/cons.
>=20
>    I currently use a number of AGI (perl) scripts to implement various
> aspects of HA--notably CID, TTS (back through the * stream) and a
> directed command (through IVR menus).  Most of these are variants that
> various Misterhouse (mh) users have contributed.  The CID script is
the
> least mh-specific as it tries to be as compliant to the meteor schema
as
> possible (although, there is additional information that is needed and
> therefore a departure exists).  The TTS is not xAP at all (it streams
> from one of the 2 cepstral engines).  The directed command is a
> mh-specific xAP schema.  In addition, there exists a manager interface
> application that does call logging (rather primitively) via xAP.  The
> problem, however, w/ manager interface apps is the absence of context
> information; so--if you happen to leverage macros or cascaded
contexts,
> then this approach is somewhat lacking.  So far, I've not modified any
> of these application/scripts beyond what I personally need from them.
> I'll be happy to share, however, if there's an interest.  It's a fair
> assessment that the work to date was on getting things to
"work" and not
> full compliance w/ all pertinent specs.  Specifically, the
> implementations were done before the current schemas had matured (and
> are still maturing)--most notably, the CID/Telephony related one(s).
>=20
> Gregg
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
> Yahoo! Groups Links
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20
>=20


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<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">Hi
Greg,</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">First of all, I don't consider myself an
Asterisk expert - I do have it running with a Sipura SPA-3000 though, which
was a feat in itse</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">lf! I'm using the Asterisk@Home
package.</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">To be honest, I've not really thought in
great detail what I want to achieve but these are some of the
areas:</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Symbol">&#183;<FONT FACE="Courier
New">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb">
<FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Call logging: I currently
use James' xAPSwitchBoard which is really great. I currently have both PSTN
and Skype calls logged using this and a couple of
Meteor's</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">
but it would be nice to allow some integration with Asterisk calls,
especially</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb">
<FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">other</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">incoming</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZ
E=2 FACE="Courier
New">/outgoing</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">VOIP</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">
calls.</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Symbol">&#183;<FONT FACE="Courier
New">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></FONT>
<FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Calling from
xAPSwitchBoard: There is an</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">option to call out from the contacts and log screen - would be
nice to maybe integrate this with
Asterisk?</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Symbol">&#183;<FONT FACE="Courier
New">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">IVR menus:</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">One of m</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">y
original</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb">
<FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">goals with Asterisk was to
build some interactive voice</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">response</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">
menus to speak the status of various systems at home such as a
larm status, history etc as a direct replacement for my
Comfort</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb">
<FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">remote menus. It would also
allow control of certain HA functions - heating, curtains etc. I'm not sure
whether this needs the xAP Asterisk support though or is possible
already?</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Symbol">&#183;<FONT FACE="Courier
New">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">Better voices: I</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">currently</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">use</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">NeoSpeech voices at home which are pretty good. Is there some
way to generate TTS on a</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">remote</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">PC</FONT></SPAN><
SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">/Server and then feed it back to Asterisk - again, maybe
not</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT
SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">a</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">xAP Asterisk function?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">
I'd be interested in what you currently do
here.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Symbol">&#183;<FONT FACE="Courier
New">&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;</FONT></FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">Control of HA devices depending on where a call
is</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT
SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">answered - i.e.
an</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT
SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">incoming</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">
call is answered in my office (certain asterisk extension).
Via</FONT></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-gb"> <FONT
SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">a xAP message, I can then mute or
pause playback of audio playing through the whole house audio system or
just mute that ro
om.</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">I'm sure others will come up with a better
thought out list - these were just off the top of my
head.</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><A
NAME=""><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Arial">Paul.</FONT></SPAN></A></P>
<BR>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us">
<FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">-----Original
Message-----</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us">
<FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">From:
xap_automation@xxxxxxx</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us">
<FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">[<A HREF="mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx";>mailto:xap_automation@xxxxxxx</A>]
On Behalf Of Gregg Liming</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us">
<FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Sent: 20 July 2005
03:28</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us">
<FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">To:
xap_automation@xxxxxxx</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN><SPAN LANG="en-us">
<FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier New">Subject: Re:
[xap_automation] xAP Asterisk integration</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;
</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">Paul Gale wrote:</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;
</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">&gt; Is anyone in a position to be able to look at writing
some xAP support</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">&gt; for Asterisk?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">&gt; I know Patrick Lidstone did something a while ago but
he seems to have</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">&gt; disappeared without trace
L</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">Hi Paul,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;
</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">&nbsp;&nbsp; Since no one else has responded, I'll
give it a try.&nbsp; Can you</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">elaborate what you want/expect in the way of
&quot;...support for
Asterisk&quot;?</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">I'm thinking along 2 categories: (1) function and (2)
interface.&nbsp; CID is</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">a rather obvious example of function.&nbsp; Call logging
and VMI notification</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">might be another.&nbsp; The second category is specific to
asterisk: AGI or</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">manager interface.&nbsp; IMO, the issue here is both what
it possible and</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">what level of control the user wants (or, just as aptly,
doesn't want).</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">I'm rather assuming that as an asterisk user that you're
familiar w/</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">both and their pros/cons.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;
</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">&nbsp;&nbsp; I currently use a number of AGI (perl)
scripts to implement various</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">aspects of HA--notably CID, TTS (back through the * stream)
and a</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">directed command (through IVR menus).&nbsp; Most of these
are variants that</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">various Misterhouse (mh) users have contributed.&nbsp; The
CID script is the</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">least mh-specific as it tries to be as compliant to the meteor
schema as</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">possible (although, there is additional information that is
needed and</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">therefore a departure exists).&nbsp; The TTS is not xAP at
all (it streams</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">from one of the 2 cepstral engines).&nbsp; The directed
command is a</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">mh-specific xAP schema.&nbsp; In addition, there exists a
manager interface</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">application that does call logging (rather primitively) via
xAP.&nbsp; The</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">problem, however, w/ manager interface apps is the absence of
context</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">information; so--if you happen to leverage macros or cascaded
contexts,</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">then this approach is somewhat lacking.&nbsp; So far, I've
not modified any</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">of these application/scripts beyond what I personally need
from them.</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">I'll be happy to share, however, if there's an
interest.&nbsp; It's a fair</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">assessment that the work to date was on getting things to
&quot;work&quot; and not</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">full compliance w/ all pertinent specs.&nbsp;
Specifically, the</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">implementations were done before the current schemas had
matured (and</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">are still maturing)--most notably, the CID/Telephony related
one(s).</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;
</FONT></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
FACE="Courier New">&gt;</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"> <FONT SIZE=2 FACE="Courier
New">Gregg</FONT></SPAN><SPAN
LANG="en-gb"></SPAN></P>

<P ALIGN=LEFT><SPAN LANG="en-gb"><FONT SIZE=2
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