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I still use Z-Wave but have moved more towards ZigBee over the past few ye=
ars for new projects and when upgrading older devices.=C2=A0 ZigBee
doesn't=
offer the range of different device types as Z-Wave, but it's improving al=
l the time and I find it easier to work with at the protocol level.
Mostly now my system is technology agnostic with all logic handled in
Node-=
Red and everything communicating via MQTT with "hubs"=C2=A0really
just bein=
g used as=C2=A0radios <-> TCP/IP gateways.=C2=A0 Easiest to think of
it as =
"virtualised" I suppose =E2=80=A6.. so for example the
"Living Room motion =
sensor" as far as logic, web UI, Apps, Alexa, Google, etc, is just an
endpo=
int=C2=A0"thing" and the underlying technology in use can be
switched aroun=
d with a few changes to configuration files.=C2=A0 Moving from a Z-Wave
PIR=
on Vera to a ZigBee PIR on Hubitat is about 30 seconds work, aside from th=
e initial removing / pairing.
Makes it possible to choose the best device for the job as opposed to
being=
tied to a particular protocol. And you can do cool things like=C2=A0using =
various different technologies simultaneously, for example having
"motion z=
ones" with multiple PIRs=C2=A0contributing to the zone triggering /
resetti=
ng, or "average temperature zones" with multiple temperature
sensors taken =
as input for heating control, etc.
TBH it's probably massively overkill nowadays, with the advance of
single-h=
ub all-in-one solutions you can probably do most stuff with one box now
but=
where's the fun In that?=C2=A0 Guess I'm just hanging on to the memories o=
f xAP and xPL and the distributed systems of old :-)
On Friday, March 22, 2019 10:26 AM, "Nigel Champion
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Was just about to ask the same question! :)
On Fri, 22 Mar 2019 at 09:42, yahoo@xxxxxxx [ukha_d] <ukha_d@yahoo=
groups.com> wrote:
=C2=A0 Hi Martyn,=20
Curious to know what technology you have moved to.=C2=A0 We are about to
bu=
y a house and making a decision on what to have.=C2=A0 Last house had
Idrat=
ek but SWMBO has banned a complete rewire of new one so looking at
retrofit=
options. Contemplating LightwaveRF.ThanksAllan
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span></div> <div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1553254172=
259_2859" dir=3D"ltr">I still use Z-Wave but have moved
more towards ZigBee=
over the past few years for new projects and when upgrading older devices.=
ZigBee doesn't offer the range of different device types as
Z-Wave, =
but it's improving all the time and I find it easier to work with at the
pr=
otocol level.</div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"
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class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym=
19_1_1553254172259_2991" dir=3D"ltr">Mostly now my system
is technology agn=
ostic with all logic handled in Node-Red and everything communicating via
M=
QTT with "hubs" really just being used
as radios <-> TCP/IP=
gateways. Easiest to think of it as "virtualised" I
suppose =E2=80=
=A6.. so for example the "Living Room motion sensor" as far as
logic, web U=
I, Apps, Alexa, Google, etc, is just an endpoint "thing"
and the under=
lying technology in use can be switched around with a few changes to
config=
uration files. Moving from a Z-Wave PIR on Vera to a ZigBee PIR
on Hu=
bitat is about 30 seconds work, aside from the initial removing /
pairing.<=
/div><div class=3D"qtdSeparateBR"
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class=3D"qtdSeparateBR" id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19=
_1_1553254172259_3006" dir=3D"ltr">Makes it possible to
choose the best dev=
ice for the job as opposed to being tied to a particular protocol. And you
=
can do cool things like using various different technologies
simultane=
ously, for example having "motion zones" with multiple
PIRs contributi=
ng to the zone triggering / resetting, or "average temperature
zones" with =
multiple temperature sensors taken as input for heating control,
etc.</div>=
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m19_1_1553254172259_3242">TBH it's probably massively overkill
nowadays, wi=
th the advance of single-hub all-in-one solutions you can probably do most
=
stuff with one box now but where's the fun In that? Guess I'm
just ha=
nging on to the memories of xAP and xPL and the distributed systems of old
=
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co.uk" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow"
shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:=
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6_0_ym19_1_1553254172259_2904">Curious to know what technology you
have mov=
ed to. We are about to buy a house and making a decision on what
to h=
ave. Last house had Idratek but SWMBO has banned a complete
rewire of=
new one so looking at retrofit options. Contemplating
LightwaveRF.</div><d=
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