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Yes it is encrypted. I went down that route a few years ago. So unless it=
=92s been cracked...
________________________________
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <ukha_d@xxxxxxx> on behalf of Paul Gor=
don paul_gordon@xxxxxxx [ukha_d] <ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 8:57:46 AM
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Somfy IO-homecontrol
Thanks all for the various replies/suggestions=85
In parallel to asking this question, I also did a little bit of googling
on=
this standard, - since I=92d never heard of it before=85
It seems that the communication is probably encrypted, since much of the
PR=
for IO-Homecontrol talks about it being =91highly secure=92 =96 so I presu=
me a 3rd-party RF solution won=92t work =96 unless someone=92s
reverse-engi=
neered the protocol & broken the encryption..
I=92m guessing therefore that the only likely solution will be some form
of=
certified gateway device produced by one of the signatories to the standar=
d=85. I assume there must be such a thing, since the same PR material also
=
talks about using an app to control all compatible devices=85.
Since it=92s only an awning, there=92s really only 3 commands possible:
ope=
n, close, stop =96 indeed there are only 3 buttons on the remote=85 the
sto=
p command is achieved by pulsing the button for the opposite movement =96
i=
..e. if it=92s in the process of opening, then the stop signal is sent by
pu=
lsing the close button & vice-versa, so in truth I only need 2 command
line=
s, - ideally by dry contact closure which I can attach to comfort outputs=
=85
And it does seem like a number of such gateway devices are, or may be
avail=
able=85 - I=92m still reading through my google search results, so I=92ve
a=
lot more to learn about this yet=85
Cheers
P.
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 23 May 2018 01:34
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Somfy IO-homecontrol
Hi Paul,
OpenMQTTGateway has an RF interface and normally for use with 433 and
315Mh=
z remotes but no reason it should not work with 868Mhz if you can get a
sui=
table receiver (ideally a transceiver so you can send too) and hook this
up=
to an Arduino or ESP8266 (which is what I use so it can send the MQTT to N=
ode-red). You can then capture the RF and split it back out with the
868Mhz=
transmitter.
https://github.com/1technophile/OpenMQTTGateway<https://nam03.safelinks.pro=
tection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2F1technophile%2FOpenMQ=
TTGateway&data=3D02%7C01%7C%7C470f1754ce614d06336808d5c03c846b%7C84df9e7fe9=
f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636626288507696982&sdata=3DfJCyReGF12MhyPs=
qkMhiqwlKT0k5mWe02AmOz096FN0%3D&reserved=3D0>
You=92ll need to do a little work and need an MQTT server to use it or you
=
could hack the code.
Dave=85
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
<ukha_d@yahoogr=
oups.com<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>>
Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2018 12:05 AM
To: UKHA Group <ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>>
Subject: [ukha_d] Somfy IO-homecontrol
Hey peeps... I just had a new motorised awning fitted, which has come with
=
but a single remote handset, plus one vibration sensor fitted as wind
detec=
tor...
The handset is branded Somfy IO-homecontrol and the instructions - in 8
lan=
guages... none of them mine... state it runs on 868.95 MHz...
I=92d love to be able to get more automated control over it... ideally
thro=
ugh Comfort if possible...
Since I only have 1 handset, I don=92t want to hack that about...
Is there any RF interface I can use to replicate the signals from the
hands=
et, triggered through the HA system?
Cheers!
Paul G
Sent from my iPhone
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<div style=3D"direction:ltr">Yes it is encrypted. I went
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few years ago. So unless it=92s been cracked...</div>
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ukha_d@xxxxxxx=
m <ukha_d@xxxxxxx> on behalf of Paul Gordon
paul_gordon@hotma=
il.com [ukha_d] <ukha_d@xxxxxxx><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 23, 2018 8:57:46 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> ukha_d@xxxxxxx<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [ukha_d] Somfy IO-homecontrol</font>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D">Thanks all for the var=
ious replies/suggestions=85</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D">In parallel to asking =
this question, I also did a little bit of googling on this standard, -
sinc=
e I=92d never heard of it before=85</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D">It seems that the comm=
unication is probably encrypted, since much of the PR for IO-Homecontrol
ta=
lks about it being =91highly secure=92 =96 so I presume a
3<sup>rd</sup>-pa=
rty RF solution won=92t work =96 unless someone=92s
reverse-engineered the protocol & broken the
encryption..</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D">I=92m guessing therefo=
re that the only likely solution will be some form of certified gateway
dev=
ice produced by one of the signatories to the standard=85. I assume there
m=
ust be such a thing, since the same PR material
also talks about using an app to control all compatible
devices=85.</span>=
</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D">Since it=92s only an a=
wning, there=92s really only 3 commands possible: open, close, stop =96
ind=
eed there are only 3 buttons on the remote=85 the stop command is achieved
=
by pulsing the button for the opposite movement
=96 i.e. if it=92s in the process of opening, then the stop signal is sent=
by pulsing the close button & vice-versa, so in truth I only need 2
co=
mmand lines, - ideally by dry contact closure which I can attach to
comfort=
outputs=85</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D">And it does seem like =
a number of such gateway devices are, or may be available=85 - I=92m still
=
reading through my google search results, so I=92ve a lot more to learn
abo=
ut this yet=85</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D">Cheers</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span
lang=3D"EN-US">From:</span></b><span lang=
=3D"EN-US"> ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 23 May 2018 01:34<br>
<b>To:</b> ukha_d@xxxxxxx<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [ukha_d] Somfy
IO-homecontrol</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-ID"
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Paul,</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-ID"
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font=
-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"> </span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-ID"
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font=
-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">OpenMQTTGateway has
an RF interface=
and normally for use with 433 and 315Mhz remotes but no reason it should n=
ot work with 868Mhz if you can get a suitable receiver
(ideally a transceiver so you can send too) and hook this up to an Arduino=
or ESP8266 (which is what I use so it can send the MQTT to Node-red). You =
can then capture the RF and split it back out with the 868Mhz
transmitter.<=
/span></p>
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lang=3D"EN-ID" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; f=
ont-family:"Verdana",sans-serif"><a
href=3D"https://nam03.safelin=
ks.protection.outlook.com/?url=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fgithub.com%2F1technophile%2F=
OpenMQTTGateway&data=3D02%7C01%7C%7C470f1754ce614d06336808d5c03c846b%7C=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-ID"
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font=
-family:"Verdana",sans-serif">You=92ll need to do
a little work a=
nd need an MQTT server to use it or you could hack the
code.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-ID"
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt; font=
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ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a> <<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>uk=
ha_d@xxxxxxx</a>>
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, May 23, 2018 12:05 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> UKHA Group <<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@=
yahoogroups.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ukha_d] Somfy
IO-homecontrol</span></p>
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<p><span lang=3D"EN-ID">Hey peeps... I just had a new
motorised awning fitt=
ed, which has come with but a single remote handset, plus one vibration
sen=
sor fitted as wind detector...
<br>
<br>
The handset is branded Somfy IO-homecontrol and the instructions - in 8
lan=
guages... none of them mine... state it runs on 868.95 MHz...
<br>
<br>
I=92d love to be able to get more automated control over it... ideally
thro=
ugh Comfort if possible...
<br>
<br>
Since I only have 1 handset, I don=92t want to hack that about...
<br>
<br>
Is there any RF interface I can use to replicate the signals from the
hands=
et, triggered through the HA system?
<br>
<br>
Cheers! <br>
<br>
Paul G <br>
<br>
Sent from my iPhone</span></p>
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