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Re: Re: Moving from X10



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Have to say it's down to personal preference, and how much you want to do
stuff, or how much 'it just works' out of the box functionality you'd like
to have. For this reason we're now using Evohome from Honeywell for our
heating control. As for other automation software options take a look at
the following

domoticz - http://domoticz.com/
Home Assistant : https://home-assistant.io/

I've found that typically support for a specific product will be better in
one software package than another. The biggest problem for integration
right now, is that there is a focus on most commercial hardware solutions
being 'cloud' based and the level of functionality that remains if 'the
cloud' goes away is variable.

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:09 PM, james@xxxxxxx [ukha_d] <
ukha_d@xxxxxxx> wrote:

>
>
> FHEM is mostly used in Germany and doesn't have much exposure here.
The
> Germans seem way ahead of us when it comes to this sort of thing and
they
> have a wide choice of modules, manufacturers and systems. If you look
at =
eg
> https://www.elv.de/
(Google Translate to the rescue) you'll find all
> sorts of cool stuff.
>
> The 'HomeMatic' system in particular has loads of good stuff and is
not
> hugely expensive, but FS20 is better at the budget end.
>
> I was initially reluctant to move but it now supports Zwave very well.
It
> is unashamedly geeky and gives vast amounts of information about each
> device, but it is largely translated into English and gives you lots
of
> control.
>
> eg this for a Fibaro FGD-212 dimmer!
>
> Readings
>
> CMD
> ZW_APPLICATION_UPDATE
> 2017-05-13 20:19:42
> SEND_DATA
> failed:00
> 2017-05-16 15:12:50
> configAutoCalibrationStatus
> DimmerOperatesOnAutoCalibration1
> 2017-05-16 22:12:28
> configDimmabilityOfTheLoad
> LoadRecognizedAsDimmable
> 2017-05-16 22:12:33
> configInputsButtonSwitchConfiguration
> BiStableInputSwitch
> 2017-05-16 22:12:3
> configLoadControlMode
> trailingEdge
> 2017-05-16 22:12:33
> configMaximumBrightnessLevel
> 70
> 2017-05-16 22:12:33
> configMethodOfCalculatingTheActive58
> powerMeasurementBasedOnThe0
> 2017-05-16 22:12:33
> configMinimumBrightnessLevel
> 9
> 2017-05-16 22:12:34
> configOnOffMode
> modeSelectedAutomatically
> 2017-05-16 22:12:34
> config_30
> 2
> 2017-05-13 20:19:48
> energy
> 1.02 kWh
> 2017-05-16 21:40:57
> mcCapability_01
> ZWAVEPLUS_INFO BASIC VERSION SWITCH_MULTILEVEL ASSOCIATION
> ASSOCIATION_GRP_INFO MULTI_CHANNEL_ASSOCIATION METER SENSOR_MULTILEVEL
AL=
ARM
> 2017-05-13 20:19:33
> mcCapability_02
> ZWAVEPLUS_INFO BASIC VERSION SWITCH_MULTILEVEL ASSOCIATION
> ASSOCIATION_GRP_INFO MULTI_CHANNEL_ASSOCIATION
> 2017-05-13 20:19:33
> mcEndpoints
> total 2, different
> 2017-05-13 20:19:33
> model
> FIBARO System FGD212 Dimmer 2
> 2017-05-13 20:19:33
> modelConfig
> fibaro/fgd212.xml
> 2017-05-13 20:19:33
> modelId
> 010f-0102-1000
> 2017-05-13 20:19:33
> power
> 0.0 W
> 2017-05-16 22:07:20
> reportedState
> off
> 2017-05-16 21:06:51
> state
> off
> 2017-05-16 21:06:51
> timeToAck
> 0.461
> 2017-05-16 15:12:50
> transmit
> OK
> 2017-05-16 15:12:50
>  ZWave_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL_11
> IODev WNMI_delay alias classes cmdIcon comment devStateIcon
devStateStyle
> do_not_notify dummy event-aggregator event-min-interval
> event-on-change-reading event-on-update-reading eventForRaw eventMap
> extendedAlarmReadings group icon ignore ignoreDupMsg neighborListPos
> noExplorerFrames noWakeupForApplicationUpdate room secure_classes
showtim=
e
>  sortby stateFormat suppressReading timestamp-on-change-reading
useCRC16
> useMultiCmd userReadings userattr vclasses verbose webCmd
widgetOverride
> zwaveRoute
> Attributes
>
> IODev
> ZStickGen5 <http://gw0udm.duckdns.org:8083/fhem?detail=3DZStickGen5>
> deleteattr
> <http://gw0udm.duckdns.org:8083/fhem?cmd.ZWave_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL_11=3Ddel=
eteattr%20ZWave_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL_11%20IODev&detail=3DZWave_SWITCH_MULTILEV=
EL_11&fwcsrf=3Dcsrf_103603491557554>
>
> alias
> Thomas Room - Wall Switch
> deleteattr
> <http://gw0udm.duckdns.org:8083/fhem?cmd.ZWave_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL_11=3Ddel=
eteattr%20ZWave_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL_11%20alias&detail=3DZWave_SWITCH_MULTILEV=
EL_11&fwcsrf=3Dcsrf_103603491557554>
>
> classes
> ZWAVEPLUS_INFO BASIC VERSION MANUFACTURER_SPECIFIC SWITCH_MULTILEVEL
> DEVICE_RESET_LOCALLY ASSOCIATION_GRP_INFO ASSOCIATION POWERLEVEL
SECURITY
> FIRMWARE_UPDATE_MD CRC_16_ENCAP CONFIGURATION SENSOR_MULTILEVEL METER
> MULTI_CHANNEL_ASSOCIATION MULTI_CHANNEL PROTECTION ALARM SWITCH_ALL
> APPLICATION_STATUS MARK SCENE_ACTIVATION
> deleteattr
> <http://gw0udm.duckdns.org:8083/fhem?cmd.ZWave_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL_11=3Ddel=
eteattr%20ZWave_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL_11%20classes&detail=3DZWave_SWITCH_MULTIL=
EVEL_11&fwcsrf=3Dcsrf_103603491557554>
>
> room
> Thomas Room <http://gw0udm.duckdns.org:8083/fhem?room=3DThomas%20Room>,ZW=
ave
> <http://gw0udm.duckdns.org:8083/fhem?room=3DZWave>
> deleteattr
> <http://gw0udm.duckdns.org:8083/fhem?cmd.ZWave_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL_11=3Ddel=
eteattr%20ZWave_SWITCH_MULTILEVEL_11%20room&detail=3DZWave_SWITCH_MULTILEVE=
L_11&fwcsrf=3Dcsrf_103603491557554>
>
> vclasses
> ALARM:5 APPLICATION_STATUS:1 ASSOCIATION:2 ASSOCIATION_GRP_INFO:1
BASIC:1
> CONFIGURATION:1 CRC_16_ENCAP:1 DEVICE_RESET_LOCALLY:1
FIRMWARE_UPDATE_MD:=
3
> MANUFACTURER_SPECIFIC:2 METER:3 MULTI_CHANNEL:4
MULTI_CHANNEL_ASSOCIATION=
:3
> POWERLEVEL:1 PROTECTION:2 SCENE_ACTIVATION:1 SECURITY:1
SENSOR_MULTILEVEL=
:4
> SWITCH_ALL:1 SWITCH_MULTILEVEL:3 VERSION:2 ZWAVEPLUS_INFO:2
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, <patrick@...> wrote :
>
> I looked at PC solutions, but my searches didn't turn up FHEM. I found
th=
e
> ones I looked at hamstrung when it came to ZWave - perhaps I was just
bei=
ng
> impatient! The cost of a Zwave dongle + Zigbee dongle must be pretty
clos=
e
> to the purchase price of a SmartThing, so it's definitely a swings
&
> roundabouts thing.
>
> Patrick
>
> On 15 May 2017 at 18:48, james@...
> <https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=3Dcm&fs=3D1&tf=3D1&to=3Djames@...>
[u=
kha_d] <
> ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> <https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=3Dcm&fs=3D1&tf=3D1&to=3Dukha_d@yahoog=
roups.com>
> > wrote:
>
>
>
> I'd really recommend looking a PC based solution to this, and of the
> controller software I use Fhem (www.fhem.de). This supports a very
wide
> range of controllers and devices and you can pretty much mix and match
wh=
at
> you want with appropriate wireless interfaces.
>
> I'm using mine with a CUL device for MAX heating, a ZWave stick with
> fibaro modules for lighting and Sonoff switches (which are cheap and
can =
be
> reflashed) for simple AC switching.
>
> Z wave is really nice but the modules are quite expensive - but for
switc=
h
> replacment etc you can't beat them.
>
> Fhem takes a bit of getting used to but it's incredibly flexible and
> really good for interoperating between different device families.
>
> I'm sure you can do everything you need with this setup.
>
> James
>
>
>
>=20
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Have to say it&#39;s down to personal
preference, and how =
much you want to do stuff, or how much &#39;it just works&#39; out
of the b=
ox functionality you&#39;d like to have. For this reason we&#39;re
now usin=
g Evohome from Honeywell for our heating control. As for other automation
s=
oftware options take a look at the
following<div><br></div><div>domoticz -=
=C2=A0<a href=3D"http://domoticz.com/";>http://domoticz.com/</a></div><div>H=
ome Assistant :=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://home-assistant.io/";>https://home-as=
sistant.io/</a></div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;ve
found that typically supp=
ort for a specific product will be better in one software package than
anot=
her. The biggest problem for integration right now, is that there is a
focu=
s on most commercial hardware solutions being &#39;cloud&#39; based
and the=
level of functionality that remains if &#39;the cloud&#39; goes
away is va=
riable.=C2=A0</div></div><div
class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 10:09 PM, <a href=3D"mailto:james@familyree=
d.org.uk">james@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] <span
dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
target=3D"_blank">ukha_d@xxxxxxx=
m</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote
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<p>FHEM is mostly used in Germany and doesn&#39;t have much
exposure =
here. The Germans seem way ahead of us when it comes to this sort of thing
=
and they have a wide choice of modules, manufacturers and systems. If you
l=
ook at eg=C2=A0<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"https://www.elv.de/";
target=3D"_=
blank">https://www.elv.de/</a>=C2=A0(Google
Translate to the rescue) you&#3=
9;ll find all sorts of cool
stuff.</p><div><br></div><div>The
&#39;HomeMati=
c&#39; system in particular has loads of good stuff and is not hugely
expen=
sive, but FS20 is better at the budget
end.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>=
I was initially reluctant to move but it now supports Zwave very well. It
i=
s unashamedly geeky and gives vast amounts of information about each
device=
, but it is largely translated into English and gives you lots of
control.<=
/div><div><br></div><div>eg this for a Fibaro
FGD-212 dimmer!</div><div><br=
></div><div><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136makeTable m_5786092803823188=
136wide m_5786092803823188136readings"
style=3D"width:1707px;float:left;mar=
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188136block m_5786092803823188136wide m_5786092803823188136readings"
style=
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class=3D"m_5786092803823188136odd" style=3D"background:rg=
b(240,240,216)"><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dname">CMD</div></td=
><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dval">ZW_APPLICATION_UPDATE</div></=
td><td><div>2017-05-13
20:19:42</div></td></tr><tr
class=3D"m_5786092803823=
188136even"><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dname">SEND_DATA</div></=
td><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dval">failed:00</div></td><td><di=
v>2017-05-16 15:12:50</div></td></tr><tr
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136odd"=
style=3D"background:rgb(240,240,216)"><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188=
136dname">configAutoCalibrationStatus</div></td><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092=
803823188136dval">DimmerOperatesOnAutoCalibratio<wbr>n1</div></td><td><div
=
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136changed"
style=3D"color:red">2017-05-16 22:12=
:28</div></td></tr><tr
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136even"><td><div class=
=3D"m_5786092803823188136dname">configDimmabilityOfTheLoad</div></td><td><d=
iv
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dval">LoadRecognizedAsDimmable</div></td><=
td><div class=3D"m_5786092803823188136changed"
style=3D"color:red">2017-05-=
16 22:12:33</div></td></tr><tr
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136odd" style=3D"=
background:rgb(240,240,216)"><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dname">=
configInputsButtonSwitchConfig<wbr>uration</div></td><td><div
class=3D"m_57=
86092803823188136dval">BiStableInputSwitch</div></td><td><div
class=3D"m_57=
86092803823188136changed" style=3D"color:red">2017-05-16
22:12:3</div></td>=
</tr><tr
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136even"><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803=
823188136dname">configLoadControlMode</div></td><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092=
803823188136dval">trailingEdge</div></td><td><div
class=3D"m_57860928038231=
88136changed" style=3D"color:red">2017-05-16
22:12:33</div></td></tr><tr cl=
ass=3D"m_5786092803823188136odd"
style=3D"background:rgb(240,240,216)"><td>=
<div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dname">configMaximumBrightnessLevel</div=
></td><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dval">70</div></td><td><div
cl=
ass=3D"m_5786092803823188136changed"
style=3D"color:red">2017-05-16 22:12:3=
3</div></td></tr><tr
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136even"><td><div
class=3D"=
m_5786092803823188136dname">configMethodOfCalculatingTheAc<wbr>tive58</div>=
</td><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dval">powerMeasurementBasedOnTh=
e0</div></td><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136changed" style=3D"color=
:red">2017-05-16 22:12:33</div></td></tr><tr
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136=
odd"
style=3D"background:rgb(240,240,216)"><td><div
class=3D"m_578609280382=
3188136dname">configMinimumBrightnessLevel</div></td><td><div
class=3D"m_57=
86092803823188136dval">9</div></td><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136c=
hanged" style=3D"color:red">2017-05-16
22:12:34</div></td></tr><tr class=3D=
"m_5786092803823188136even"><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dname">c=
onfigOnOffMode</div></td><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dval">modeS=
electedAutomatically</div></td><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136chang=
ed" style=3D"color:red">2017-05-16
22:12:34</div></td></tr><tr class=3D"m_5=
786092803823188136odd"
style=3D"background:rgb(240,240,216)"><td><div class=
=3D"m_5786092803823188136dname">config_30</div></td><td><div
class=3D"m_578=
6092803823188136dval">2</div></td><td><div>2017-05-13
20:19:48</div></td></=
tr><tr
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136even"><td><div
class=3D"m_578609280382=
3188136dname">energy</div></td><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dval"=
>1.02 kWh</div></td><td><div>2017-05-16
21:40:57</div></td></tr><tr class=
=3D"m_5786092803823188136odd"
style=3D"background:rgb(240,240,216)"><td><di=
v
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dname">mcCapability_01</div></td><td><div
c=
lass=3D"m_5786092803823188136dval">ZWAVEPLUS_INFO BASIC
VERSION SWITCH_MULT=
ILEVEL ASSOCIATION ASSOCIATION_GRP_INFO MULTI_CHANNEL_ASSOCIATION METER
SEN=
SOR_MULTILEVEL ALARM</div></td><td><div>2017-05-13
20:19:33</div></td></tr>=
<tr class=3D"m_5786092803823188136even"><td><div
class=3D"m_578609280382318=
8136dname">mcCapability_02</div></td><td><div
class=3D"m_578609280382318813=
6dval">ZWAVEPLUS_INFO BASIC VERSION SWITCH_MULTILEVEL ASSOCIATION
ASSOCIATI=
ON_GRP_INFO
MULTI_CHANNEL_ASSOCIATION</div></td><td><div>2017-05-13
20:19:3=
3</div></td></tr><tr
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136odd" style=3D"background=
:rgb(240,240,216)"><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dname">mcEndpoint=
s</div></td><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dval">total 2, different=
</div></td><td><div>2017-05-13
20:19:33</div></td></tr><tr class=3D"m_57860=
92803823188136even"><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dname">model</di=
v></td><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dval">FIBARO System FGD212 Di=
mmer 2</div></td><td><div>2017-05-13
20:19:33</div></td></tr><tr class=3D"m=
_5786092803823188136odd"
style=3D"background:rgb(240,240,216)"><td><div cla=
ss=3D"m_5786092803823188136dname">modelConfig</div></td><td><div
class=3D"m=
_5786092803823188136dval">fibaro/fgd212.xml</div></td><td><div>2017-05-13
2=
0:19:33</div></td></tr><tr
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136even"><td><div cla=
ss=3D"m_5786092803823188136dname">modelId</div></td><td><div
class=3D"m_578=
6092803823188136dval">010f-0102-1000</div></td><td><div>2017-05-13
20:19:33=
</div></td></tr><tr
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136odd" style=3D"background:=
rgb(240,240,216)"><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dname">power</div>=
</td><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dval">0.0
W</div></td><td><div>=
2017-05-16 22:07:20</div></td></tr><tr
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136even">=
<td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dname">reportedState</div></td><td><=
div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dval">off</div></td><td><div>2017-05-16
2=
1:06:51</div></td></tr><tr
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136odd" style=3D"back=
ground:rgb(240,240,216)"><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dname">stat=
e</div></td><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dval">off</div></td><td>=
<div>2017-05-16 21:06:51</div></td></tr><tr
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136e=
ven"><td><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dname">timeToAck</div></td><td>=
<div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136dval">0.461</div></td><td><div>2017-05-1=
6 15:12:50</div></td></tr><tr
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136odd" style=3D"b=
ackground:rgb(240,240,216)"><td><div
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k">ZStickGen5</a></div></td><td><a
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class=3D"m_5786092803823188=
136ygroups-quoted">---In <a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx"; target=
=3D"_blank">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>,
&lt;patrick@...&gt; wrote :<br><br>=
<div
id=3D"m_5786092803823188136ygrps-yiv-225816278"><span
class=3D""><div =
dir=3D"ltr">I looked at PC solutions, but my searches
didn&#39;t turn up FH=
EM. I found the ones I looked at hamstrung when it came to ZWave - perhaps
=
I was just being impatient! The cost of a Zwave dongle + Zigbee dongle
must=
be pretty close to the purchase price of a SmartThing, so it&#39;s
definit=
ely a swings &amp; roundabouts
thing.<div><br></div><div>Patrick</div></div=
></span><span class=3D""><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136ygrps-yiv-22581=
6278gmail_extra"><br><blockquote><span><div
class=3D"m_5786092803823188136y=
grps-yiv-225816278gmail_quote">On 15 May 2017 at 18:48, <a
rel=3D"nofollow"=
href=3D"https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=3Dcm&amp;fs=3D1&amp;tf=3D1&amp;=
to=3Djames@..." target=3D"_blank">james@...</a>
[ukha_d] <span dir=3D"ltr">=
&lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"https://mail.google.com/mail/?view=3Dcm&amp=
;fs=3D1&amp;tf=3D1&amp;to=3Dukha_d@xxxxxxx"
target=3D"_blank">ukha_=
d@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote
class=3D"m_578609280=
3823188136ygrps-yiv-225816278gmail_quote"
style=3D"border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id"><div><br><br>I&#39;d really recommend
looking a PC based solution to th=
is, and of the controller software I use Fhem (<a
rel=3D"nofollow" href=3D"=
http://www.fhem.de";
target=3D"_blank">www.fhem.de</a>). This supports a ver=
y wide range of controllers and devices and you can pretty much mix and
mat=
ch what you want with appropriate wireless
interfaces.<div><br></div><div>I=
&#39;m using mine with a CUL device for MAX heating, a ZWave stick with
fib=
aro modules for lighting and Sonoff switches (which are cheap and can be
re=
flashed) for simple AC
switching.</div><div><br></div><div>Z wave is
really=
nice but the modules are quite expensive - but for switch replacment etc y=
ou can&#39;t beat
them.</div><div><br></div><div>Fhem takes a
bit of gettin=
g used to but it&#39;s incredibly flexible and really good for
interoperati=
ng between different device
families.</div><div><br></div><div>I&#39;m
sure=
you can do everything you need with this
setup.</div><div><br></div><div>J=
ames</div><br><br><div
style=3D"color:white"></div></div></blockquote></div=
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