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Hi Paul
I'd be guided by local regs (or if there aren't any in Norway, perhaps the
other Scandies have some - I think Sweden may?). You really, really don't
want these inside - the risk of ignition in case of a leak is much higher,
and they explode violently when subject to an external heat source such as
a house fire (they'll take out walls, not just a firework sized bang).
I understand the preference for a gas hob though, if outside storage isn't
feasible how about an induction hob - they're pretty close to the gas
cooking experience with none of the hassle.
Cheers
Patrick
On 27 February 2017 at 10:54, Paul Gordon paul_gordon@xxxxxxx [ukha_d] =
<
ukha_d@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks Patrick, very useful information.
>
>
>
> I=E2=80=99m not sure about the practicality of an outside store for
the g=
as
> bottle=E2=80=A6 I=E2=80=99d obviously already given it thought, but
the l=
ocation really
> doesn=E2=80=99t lend itself well to that=E2=80=A6 either the pipe
would h=
ave to be many
> metres long to store the bottle in a convenient location, or it would
hav=
e
> to be sticking out of a side wall jutting out into a walkway=E2=80=A6
>
>
>
> Plus I have seen references to the storage of bottled gas indoors
being
> permissible, albeit with some limits on size/quantity=E2=80=A6
>
>
>
> We routinely get -13C to -15C here in winter, with occasional dips to
> around -18C=E2=80=A6 not sure how that impacts gas storage
outside=E2=80=
=A6 I=E2=80=99ll have a
> word with a few of my friends who have bottled gas in their cabins
& see
> how they deal with it=E2=80=A6 but I guess that can=E2=80=99t be an
optio=
n on a boat!!
>
>
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> Paul G.
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
> *Sent:* 27 February 2017 11:17
> *To:* ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> *Subject:* Re: [ukha_d] RE: Gas leak sensor recommendation
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Paul
>
> Try a chandlers (e.g. force4) - boats use these kind of detectors, and
> most have relay contacts for remote alarming.
>
> You will find it very difficult to find information on the connectors
> because they can't be purchased on the open market - this is to
prevent D=
IY
> installs. Perhaps you can persuade a gas-safe engineer to help?
>
> The bottles must be kept outside. Butane ("red") has a lower
freezing
> point than propane ("blue"), and is therefore a better
choice for you. If
> you make an insulated enclosure, it will need vents at the bottom as
the
> gas is heavier than air.
>
> Lastly, buy a bottle of gas detector fluid for testing the install
once
> you've done it -- it's magic stuff and was a great help when I was
checki=
ng
> my install.
>
> Cheers
>
> Patrick
>
>
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi Paul<div>I'd be guided by
local regs (or if there a=
ren't any in Norway, perhaps the other Scandies have some - I think
Swe=
den may?). You really, really don't want these inside - the risk of
ign=
ition in case of a leak is much higher, and they explode violently when
sub=
ject to an external heat source such as a house fire (they'll take
out =
walls, not just a firework sized bang).</div><div>I understand
the preferen=
ce for a gas hob though, if outside storage isn't feasible how
about an=
induction hob - they're pretty close to the gas cooking experience
wit=
h none of the
hassle.</div><div>Cheers</div><div>Patrick</div><div
class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br><div
class=3D"gmail_quote">On 27 February 2017 at 10:54, =
Paul Gordon <a href=3D"mailto:paul_gordon@xxxxxxx";>paul_gordon@hotmail.=
com</a> [ukha_d] <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a
href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@yahoogroups=
.com"
target=3D"_blank">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>></span>
wrote:<br><bl=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Thanks Patrick, very
useful informati=
on.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I=E2=80=99m not sure
about the practi=
cality of an outside store for the gas bottle=E2=80=A6 I=E2=80=99d
obviousl=
y already given it thought, but the location
really doesn=E2=80=99t lend itself well to that=E2=80=A6 either the pipe w=
ould have to be many metres long to store the bottle in a convenient
locati=
on, or it would have to be sticking out of a side wall jutting out into a
w=
alkway=E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Plus I have seen
references to the st=
orage of bottled gas indoors being permissible, albeit with some limits on
=
size/quantity=E2=80=A6<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">We routinely get -13C to
-15C here in=
winter, with occasional dips to around -18C=E2=80=A6 not sure how that imp=
acts gas storage outside=E2=80=A6=C2=A0
I=E2=80=99ll have a word with a few of my friends who have bottled gas in =
their cabins & see how they deal with it=E2=80=A6 but I guess that
can=
=E2=80=99t be an option on a
boat!!<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Cheers<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Paul
G.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Ca=
libri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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US"
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<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
target=3D"_blank">ukha_d@yahoogro=
ups.com</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
target=3D"_bl=
ank">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a><wbr>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 27 February 2017 11:17<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
target=3D"_blank">ukha=
_d@xxxxxxx</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ukha_d] RE: Gas leak sensor
recommendation<u></u><u></=
u></span></p>
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<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hi
Paul<u></u><u></u></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Try a chandlers (e.g. force4) -
boats use these kind=
of detectors, and most have relay contacts for remote
alarming.<u></u><u><=
/u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">You will find it very difficult to
find information =
on the connectors because they can't be purchased on the open
market - =
this is to prevent DIY installs. Perhaps you can persuade a gas-safe
engine=
er to help?<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">The bottles must be kept outside.
Butane ("red&=
quot;) has a lower freezing point than propane ("blue"),
and is t=
herefore a better choice for you. If you make an insulated enclosure, it
wi=
ll need vents at the bottom as the gas is heavier than
air.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Lastly, buy a bottle of gas detector
fluid for testi=
ng the install once you've done it -- it's magic stuff and
was a gr=
eat help when I was checking my
install.<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<u></u><u></u></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal">Patrick<u></u><u></u></p>
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