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Re: "Smart" Sockets for use with Alexa / Echo...



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...hence looking at using a Mini-PC and Homeseer again.

Unfortunately HomeVision has long since died and just wouldn't cut the
must=
ard (or the cheese) any longer in a modern setup.

Phil

Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...

> On 30 Nov 2016, at 15:35, Paul Gordon paul_gordon@xxxxxxx [ukha_d]
<u=
kha_d@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Understandable for *some* services.. Echo/Alexa has nothing like
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example=E2=
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> But a simple bloody if-then-else rulebase for switching lights &
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?!!! =E2=80=93 no reason whatsoever for that not to be kept on-prem=E2=80=
=A6
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> P.
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> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]=20
> Sent: 30 November 2016 15:44
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] "Smart" Sockets for use with Alexa /
Echo...
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> Hmmm ... not sure where I saw it - I'm sure it was an announcement
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Samsung shutting down their SmartThings servers at some point.
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> I just remember at the time thinking "Bollocks - I won't get one
of those=
then..."
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> I really don't like these cloud based control systems - they're all
like =
it though ... Hue ... the TP Link ones ... Wemo ... so they all rely on
the=
'good will' of the manufacturers to keep supporting into teh future.
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> Phil
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> Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...
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> On 30 Nov 2016, at 14:10, Stuart Poulton stuart@xxxxxxx [ukha_d] <=
ukha_d@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Phil,
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> Where have you got info about Smartthings being discontinued ?
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> Cheers
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> Stuart
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> On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:16 PM, Phil Harris phil@xxxxxxx [ukha_d]
<u=
kha_d@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Hi Guys,
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> Have been using Alexa / Echo with Philips Hue for a bit but now
looking f=
or some Smart Sockets for use with it too ... I know that there's the
Samsu=
ng Smartthings but I think that's being terminated isn't it?
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> I've got a few TP Link HS100's coming (=C2=A316 each from Argos) but
they=
seem to be in quite short supply too so I was wondering if anyone else had=
any suggestions for sockets that can be used with Alexa / Echo?
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> At some point I must get round to trying HomeSeer with the Hue plugin
and=
interface but til then I'm barking orders at a bloody oversized Coke can!=
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> Phil
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> Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable device...
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<div>...hence looking at using a Mini-PC and Homeseer
again.</div><div id=
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ely HomeVision has long since died and just wouldn't cut the mustard (or
th=
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setup.<br><br>Phil<div><br></div><div>Sent=
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agree wi=
th the =E2=80=9Ceverything-in-the-cloud=E2=80=9D
sentiment=E2=80=A6<o:p></o=
:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
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libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp=
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libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Understand=
able for *<b>some</b>* services.. Echo/Alexa has nothing like
enough on boa=
rd processing power to do the voice recognition
locally for example=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp=
;</o:p></span></p>
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style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Ca=
libri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">But
a simp=
le bloody if-then-else rulebase for switching lights &amp; sockets??!!!
=E2=
=80=93 no reason whatsoever for that not to be kept
on-prem=E2=80=A6<o:p></=
o:p></span></p>
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lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
lang=3D"EN-=
US"
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
=
<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>
[<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 30 November 2016 15:44<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx=
</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ukha_d] "Smart" Sockets for use
with Alexa / Echo...<o=
:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
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class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Hmmm ... not sure where I saw it -
I'm sure it was a=
n announcement about Samsung shutting down their SmartThings servers at
som=
e point.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I just remember at the time thinking
"Bollocks - I w=
on't get one of those then..."<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I really don't like these cloud
based control system=
s - they're all like it though ... Hue ... the TP Link ones ... Wemo ...
so=
they all rely on the 'good will' of the manufacturers to keep supporting i=
nto teh future.<br>
<br>
Phil<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from another bloody fruit-based
portable device=
...<o:p></o:p></p>
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style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>
On 30 Nov 2016, at 14:10, Stuart Poulton <a href=3D"mailto:stuart@xxxxxxx=
rg.uk">stuart@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] &lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@yaho=
ogroups.com">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p
class=3D"MsoNormal">Phil,<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Where have you got info about
Smartthings being disc=
ontinued ?<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
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<p
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<p
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<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Nov 30, 2016 at 1:16 PM,
Phil Harris <a href=
=3D"mailto:phil@xxxxxxx";>
phil@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx"=
target=3D"_blank">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p style=3D"background:white">Hi Guys,<br>
<br>
Have been using Alexa / Echo with Philips Hue for a bit but now looking
for=
some Smart Sockets for use with it too ... I know that there's the Samsung=
Smartthings but I think that's being terminated isn't it?<br>
<br>
I've got a few TP Link HS100's coming (=C2=A316 each from Argos) but they
s=
eem to be in quite short supply too so I was wondering if anyone else had
a=
ny suggestions for sockets that can be used with Alexa / Echo?<br>
<br>
At some point I must get round to trying HomeSeer with the Hue plugin and
i=
nterface but til then I'm barking orders at a bloody oversized Coke can!
<br>
<br>
Phil<br>
<br>
Sent from another bloody fruit-based portable
device...<o:p></o:p></p>
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