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Re: [ukha_d] Heat genius ?


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  • Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Heat genius ?
  • From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
  • Http: //www.vesternet.com/z-wave-fibaro-motion-sensor?gclid=3DCjwKEAjw8oSoBR= instead of the Philio ones that HG sell , but no idea if the HG system wou=
  • Http: //www.vesternet.com/z-wave-philio-multisensor-pir-light-temp-gen5?gcli=
  • Sent: 10 March 2015 17:47

Hi Marcus,

We do always seem to be treading the same path  ...   I'm also evaluati=
ng the two and undecided.  Each has a significant issue for me.

For my home it would seem that I would need three evoHome controllers a=
nd  three gateways and unfortunately each would then operate as an 
indepen=
dent system which doesn't seem too manageable for us.  evoHome don't offer
=
any RF repeaters and it's essentially a wireless range issue, plus the
numb=
er of radiator valves needed.  So that's a bit of a problem.   I'm  hoping
=
a next generation product might offer a better solution with maybe the
thre=
e controllers communicating with each other as one system.

HeatGenius as my other alternative has some issues with stored hot water=
control  - there is no HW temperature sensor available so no smart integra=
tion beyond a timed demand and therefore no real allowance for a hot water
=
priority system where a heat request might not be deliverable for some
time=
if the stored water first needs significant warming.  This is probably tol=
erable but not ideal.    I had also hoped for some modulating control of
th=
e boiler rather than just on/off but that might be a red herring in terms
o=
f the practical benefit.     I was going to wait and see what the current
b=
eta release added as that's due for release any time now but with no API
av=
ailable until year end it looks a bit 'closed' for me currently and so
it's=
likely I'm going to wait this one out too.

cheers Kevin

On 10/03/2015 15:28, Marcus Warrington
marcus.warrington@xxxxxxx<mailto:=
marcus.warrington@xxxxxxx> [ukha_d] wrote:
Hi everyone,

I'm thinking of getting some automation for our combi boiler driven
central=
heating system. Our house is an old brick semi detached with cellars but i=
sn't particularly well insulated although it does have loft insulation and
=
cavity wall insulation installed. Currentlly all  the radiators already
hav=
e TRV's fitted and we have no thermostat installed.

I'm looking at the EvoHome and HeatGenius but am favouring the HeatGenius
s=
ystem at the moment (despite the awful colour scheme of their app). Ours
is=
a reasonably large house (7beds) and 4 rooms have double rads so I'd be lo=
oking at eventually having something like 13 smart TRV's and PIR's which
ce=
rtainly pushes the price up.

Given the number of rads I'm not entirely happy at going the battery
operat=
ed route but anything hardwired pushes the cost up even higher and makes
fo=
r a harder install. I guess in the longer term I could look at running a
po=
wer supply cable around the house to each TRV.

Does anyone currently have the system installed or have any opinions on it
=
?

Marcus




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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Hi
Kevin&#8230; we must stop meeting like this
</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">J</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">
I think you are the one actually WALKING the
path, I&#8217;m just peering down it without actually doing
much&#8230; my pan fans for example still aren&#8217;t
fitted!<br>

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