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Hi Marcus,
We do always seem to be treading the same path ... I'm also
evaluating the two and undecided. Each has a significant issue for me.
For my home it would seem that I would need three evoHome
controllers and three gateways and unfortunately each would then
operate as an independent system which doesn't seem too manageable for
us. evoHome don't offer any RF repeaters and it's essentially a
wireless range issue, plus the number of radiator valves needed. So
that's a bit of a problem. I'm hoping a next generation product might
offer a better solution with maybe the three controllers communicating
with each other as one system.
HeatGenius as my other alternative has some issues with stored hot
water control - there is no HW temperature sensor available so no smart
integration beyond a timed demand and therefore no real allowance for a
hot water priority system where a heat request might not be deliverable
for some time if the stored water first needs significant warming. This
is probably tolerable but not ideal. I had also hoped for some
modulating control of the boiler rather than just on/off but that might
be a red herring in terms of the practical benefit. I was going to
wait and see what the current beta release added as that's due for
release any time now but with no API available until year end it looks a
bit 'closed' for me currently and so it's likely I'm going to wait this
one out too.
cheers Kevin
On 10/03/2015 15:28, Marcus Warrington marcus.warrington@xxxxxxx
[ukha_d] wrote:
>
>
> Hi everyone,
>
> I?m thinking of getting some automation for our combi boiler driven
> central heating system. Our house is an old brick semi detached with
> cellars but isn?t particularly well insulated although it does have
> loft insulation and cavity wall insulation installed. Currentlly all
> the radiators already have TRV?s fitted and we have no thermostat
> installed.
>
> I?m looking at the EvoHome and HeatGenius but am favouring the
> HeatGenius system at the moment (despite the awful colour scheme of
> their app). Ours is a reasonably large house (7beds) and 4 rooms have
> double rads so I?d be looking at eventually having something like 13
> smart TRV?s and PIR?s which certainly pushes the price up.
>
> Given the number of rads I?m not entirely happy at going the battery
> operated route but anything hardwired pushes the cost up even higher
> and makes for a harder install. I guess in the longer term I could
> look at running a power supply cable around the house to each TRV.
>
> Does anyone currently have the system installed or have any opinions
> on it ?
>
> Marcus//
>
>
>
>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">Hi Marcus,<br>
<br>
We do always seem to be treading the same path
... I'm also
evaluating the two and undecided. Each has a significant issue
for me.<br>
<br>
For my home it would seem that I would need three
evoHome
controllers and three gateways and unfortunately each would then
operate as an independent system which doesn't seem too
manageable for us. evoHome don't offer any RF repeaters and it's
essentially a wireless range issue, plus the number of radiator
valves needed. So that's a bit of a problem. I'm
hoping a next
generation product might offer a better solution with maybe the
three controllers communicating with each other as one system.<br>
<br>
HeatGenius as my other alternative has some issues with stored
hot water control - there is no HW temperature sensor available
so no smart integration beyond a timed demand and therefore no
real allowance for a hot water priority system where a heat
request might not be deliverable for some time if the stored water
first needs significant warming. This is probably tolerable but
not ideal. I had also hoped for some modulating control of the
boiler rather than just on/off but that might be a red herring in
terms of the practical benefit. I was going to wait and see
what the current beta release added as that's due for release any
time now but with no API available until year end it looks a bit
'closed' for me currently and so it's likely I'm going to wait
this one out too.<br>
<br>
cheers Kevin<br>
<br>
On 10/03/2015 15:28, Marcus Warrington
<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:marcus.warrington@xxxxxxx";>marcus.warrington@xxxxxxx</a>
[ukha_d] wrote:<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I?m thinking of getting some
automation for
our combi boiler driven central heating system. Our house is
an old brick semi detached with cellars but isn?t particularly
well insulated although it does have loft insulation and
cavity wall insulation installed. Currentlly all the
radiators already have TRV?s fitted and we have no thermostat
installed.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I?m looking at the EvoHome and
HeatGenius
but am favouring the HeatGenius system at the moment (despite
the awful colour scheme of their app). Ours is a reasonably
large house (7beds) and 4 rooms have double rads so I?d be
looking at eventually having something like 13 smart TRV?s and
PIR?s which certainly pushes the price up.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p
class="MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Given the number of rads I?m not
entirely
happy at going the battery operated route but anything
hardwired pushes the cost up even higher and makes for a
harder install. I guess in the longer term I could look at
running a power supply cable around the house to each
TRV.<o:p></o:p></p>
<p
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<p class="MsoNormal">Does anyone currently have the system
installed or have any opinions on it ?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p
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<p class="MsoNormal">Marcus<i><span
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