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Yup =E2=80=93 we (Naim) went public with our HLS compliant firmware on
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Phil
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From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]=20
Sent: 30 June 2015 12:43
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Audio round the house opti ons?
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On 30 June 2015 at 12:21, Mark McCall lists@xxxxxxx <mailto:lis=
ts@xxxxxxx> [ukha_d] <ukha_d@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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After reading that post it looks more like a BBC issue than a Sonos one.
Us=
er comments also refer to problems with these non-standard streams on
other=
hardware like Pure Evoke and Ruark Audio too.=20
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Lots of the first page of comments in that thread also seem to relate to
an=
unrelated general outage of the mp3 streams which was a BBC issue and now =
fixed.
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=20
Unfortunately there are two issues here. 1st is that the BBC changed their
=
streams to new formats (MP3 and HLS). The BBC won't be going back to what
t=
hey had before (old hardware, maintainence contracts ended etc). So you
hav=
e MP3, low quality, but readily available and HLS higher quality, but
incom=
patible with most players.=20
The 2nd issue is that Sonos haven't got it (not sure if that HLS or MP3)
w=
orking yet and aren't saying when it will be. LMS (Squeezebox) had HLS
work=
ing within a week due the community. NAIM (I believe) etc all now have
work=
ing HLS.
For a Hifi product then HLS is desirable over MP3.
A side issue is that I find both types of BBC steam very unreliable since
t=
he change.
You can read the sorry tale here:=20
http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/2ff95543-7547-4b2d-9305-563428f=
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<br><b>Sent:</b> 30 Ju=
ne 2015 12:43<br><b>To:</b>
ukha_d@xxxxxxx<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [=
ukha_d] Audio round the house opti
ons?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p=
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class=3DMsoNormal>On 30 June 2015=
at 12:21, Mark McCall <a href=3D"mailto:lists@xxxxxxx";>lists@a=
utomatedhome.co.uk</a> [ukha_d] <<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx=
m" target=3D"_blank">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><b=
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<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><div><p
cl=
ass=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'>After reading that post it
looks=
more like a BBC issue than a Sonos one. User comments also refer to proble=
ms with these non-standard streams on other hardware like Pure
Evoke a=
nd Ruark
Audio too. <o:p></o:p></p><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal styl=
e=3D'background:white'><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal=
style=3D'background:white'>Lots of the first page of comments in that
thre=
ad also seem to relate to an unrelated general outage of the mp3 streams
wh=
ich was a BBC issue and now
fixed.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal=
style=3D'background:white'><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></=
div></blockquote></div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div=
><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Unfortunately
there ar=
e two issues here. 1st is that the BBC changed their streams to new
formats=
(MP3 and HLS). The BBC won't be going back to what they had before (old ha=
rdware, maintainence contracts ended etc). So you have MP3, low quality,
bu=
t readily available and HLS higher quality, but incompatible with most
play=
ers. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:=
12.0pt'>The 2nd issue is that Sonos haven't got it (not sure if that HLS
or=
MP3) working yet and aren't saying when it will be. LMS
(Squeezebox)=
had HLS working within a week due the community. NAIM (I believe) etc all =
now have working
HLS.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>For a Hifi product then HLS is desirable over
MP3=
.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0=
pt'>A side issue is that I find both types of BBC steam very unreliable
sin=
ce the change.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margi=
n-bottom:12.0pt'>You can read the sorry tale here:
<br><br><a href=3D"http:=
//www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/entries/2ff95543-7547-4b2d-9305-563428fb74f5=
?comments_page=3D4&initial_page_size=3D10&filter=3Dnone&sortBy=
=3DCreated&sortOrder=3DDescending">http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/internet/=
entries/2ff95543-7547-4b2d-9305-563428fb74f5?comments_page=3D4&initial_=
page_size=3D10&filter=3Dnone&sortBy=3DCreated&sortOrder=3DDesce=
nding</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
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p></div><div><p
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