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RE: Best wire free alarm system with Z Wave connectivity?



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Paul,

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These Z-Wave switches look nice.  I don=E2=80=99t know anything about them
=
though!

=20

<http://www.vesternet.com/z-wave-mco-touch-panel-switch-two-load>
http://w=
ww.vesternet.com/z-wave-mco-touch-panel-switch-two-load

=20

Another thing to note=E2=80=A6.. The Z-Wave protocol should be universal
an=
d this is written in the specs, meaning that all Z-Wave products should
wor=
k together.  However some features may not be supported with some Z-Wave
pr=
oducts.  There is also a revision in the specs called Z-Wave Plus, the
spec=
s say it should be backward compatible but the Plus features may not be
sup=
ported with older Z-Wave products.  I think one of the new Plus features
is=
a longer range.  There is no word on if the HC2 supports Plus yet!.

=20

Oh one other negative for the HC2, due to the locked down nature it=E2=80=
=99s not possible to add templates for device features that are not
already=
included in the firmware of the OS.  It has to be done by emailing Fibaro =
the technical specs of the product you want adding together with a
template=
of the device you included in your system and they say it will be added in=
a coming firmware update.  At the moment this is a slow process due to the=
ir workload.

=20

This is a very good resource from Vesternet and shows what devices they
hav=
e tested with each controller/firmware.  IT=E2=80=99S A MUST READ!

=20

<http://www.vesternet.com/compatibility/z-wave-compatibility-guide>
http:/=
/www.vesternet.com/compatibility/z-wave-compatibility-guide

=20

Yes you are welcome to TeamViewer in to my HC2 when do you want to do it?

=20

Steve=20
=20
=20
=20
Kind Regards,=20
_________________________________________=20=20=20
Steve Jones



=20

From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]=20
Sent: 19 April 2015 09:18
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Best wire free alarm system with Z Wave connectivity?

=20

=20=20

Thanks Steve,

=20

I'm pretty excited about the HC2 and particularly the dimmer modules etc
th=
at they have. Seem to have the functionality I use regularly with my CBus
u=
nits but at a fraction of the cost! Obviously no LCD displays but should
be=
good with the right switches (still to research).=20

=20

I might take you up on having a look around your system when you have a mo
=
if that's still ok?

=20

Cheers,

Paul.


On 19 Apr 2015, at 09:02, Steve Jones email@xxxxxxx <mailto:email@st=
evejones.org>  [ukha_d] <ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@yahoogroups.=
com> > wrote:

Yes I prefer the HC2 for two reasons.=20=20

=20

One it has a faster response time than the VeraLite. i.e. when multiple
com=
mands are sent at once, dim, dim etc. (However the VeraLite is a low spec
c=
ontroller and there are other Veras options also available). Dont forget
bo=
th Fibaro and Vera will interface with HomeVision via http requests I can
h=
elp you with this if you need it.

=20

The other reason is it has a much better user interface, both for setup
and=
what I can endpoint screens. iPad and iPhone, I dont have any Android but =
there is a Fibaro App available for this also.

=20

The negatives for Fibaro=20

1)    The OS has been totally revamped around Christmas time and has been
r=
eleased as a beta, it still has many bugs.  Fibaro are fixing them but
they=
are slow.  When the HC2 is shipped it comes with the stable version but no=
t as feature rich as the beta upgrades. (Im not sure what features are
miss=
ing.) As we are on the cutting edge/early adopters a lot of us dont mind
wa=
iting for updates, tinkering and fixing stuff with workarounds.=20=20

=20

2)    The Fibaro forums are useful but not as mature as the Micasaverde
(Ve=
ra) forums

=20

3)    Even though the user interfaces are nice they are not customisable.
I=
believe you can use Roomie, NetIO or a simple webpage via the HTTP API if =
this is needed.

=20

4)    No third party plug-ins allowed yet by Fibaro=20

=20

5)    A problem for both the Fibaro and the Vera there are no I/Os on the
c=
ontrollers, they are wireless only units, hence good we have the HTTP API.
=
In the future I may look at using some itach devices. designed to connect
a=
lmost any electrical device to a network in a matter of minutes  http://www=
.globalcache.com/products/itach/

=20

Good luck with you final choice, I would love to hear what you go for and
y=
our experiences.

=20

Steve=20
=20
=20
=20
Kind Regards,=20
_________________________________________=20=20=20
Steve Jones
<mailto:email@xxxxxxx> email@xxxxxxx

=20

From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>  [mailto:ukha_=
d@xxxxxxx]=20
Sent: 19 April 2015 08:22
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>=20
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Best wire free alarm system with Z Wave connectivity?

=20

=20=20

Thanks Steve,

=20

You mentioned that you're going from Vera to HC2. Which do you prefer? I'm
=
guessing the HC2?

=20

Thanks,

=20

Paul.

=20

_____________________________
From: Steve Jones email@xxxxxxx <mailto:email@xxxxxxx>  [ukha=
_d] <ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx> >
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 07:59
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Best wire free alarm system with Z Wave connectivity?
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx> >






=20

Hi Paul,

=20

I cant help you with advice on Z-Wave Alarm systems.  However, if you end
u=
p choosing the Fibaro Home Center 2 it has a built in plug-in for a Satel
A=
larm System. Im sure the Vera will have many more plug-in options for
alarm=
s.=20=20

=20

The Fibaro is sadly lacking in plug-ins, as its not currently open to
third=
party developers. Albeit its said to be coming in the future.=20

=20


=20
=20
Kind Regards,=20
_________________________________________=20=20=20
Steve Jones

From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>  [mailto:ukha_=
d@xxxxxxx]=20
Sent: 19 April 2015 07:39
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>=20
Subject: [ukha_d] Best wire free alarm system with Z Wave connectivity?

=20

=20=20

So as I'll be losing Comfort in the new house, what wire-free alarm
systems=
that have good Z Wave connectivity should I be looking at? Not interested =
in a monitored system but something that is reliable with battery powered
P=
IRs etc. main panel can be mains powered of course.=20

=20

Thanks,

Paul.


On 16 Apr 2015, at 07:58, Paul Gale groups2@xxxxxxx <mailto:groups=
2@xxxxxxx>  [ukha_d] <ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@yahoog=
roups.com> > wrote:

Thanks Steve :)

=20

Paul.

=20

From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>  [mailto:ukha_=
d@xxxxxxx]=20
Sent: 16 April 2015 07:44
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>=20
Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Best group/forum for z wave and alarm advice?

=20






http://forum.fibaro.com/

=20

http://forum.micasaverde.com/

=20


=20
Kind Regards,=20
_________________________
Steve Jones
email@xxxxxxx <mailto:email@xxxxxxx>=20=20

=20






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<div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><a
name=3D"_MailEndCompose">=
<span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-l=
anguage:EN-US'>Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></a></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span st=
yle=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:=
EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font=
-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Thes=
e Z-Wave switches look nice.=C2=A0 I don=E2=80=99t know anything about
them=
though!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-fami=
ly:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbs=
p;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a
href=3D"http://www.vesternet.com=
/z-wave-mco-touch-panel-switch-two-load"><span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial"=
,"sans-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>http://www.vesternet.com/z-wave-m=
co-touch-panel-switch-two-load</span></a><span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial"=
,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span><=
/p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";col=
or:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
class=
=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;=
mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Another thing to note=E2=80=A6.. The Z-Wave
pro=
tocol should be universal and this is written in the specs, meaning that
al=
l Z-Wave products should work together.=C2=A0 However some features may
not=
be supported with some Z-Wave products.=C2=A0 There is also a revision in =
the specs called Z-Wave Plus, the specs say it should be backward
compatibl=
e but the Plus features may not be supported with older Z-Wave
products.=C2=
=A0 I think one of the new Plus features is a longer range.=C2=A0 There is
=
no word on if the HC2 supports Plus
yet!.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DM=
soNormal><span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-=
fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><s=
pan
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-lan=
guage:EN-US'>Oh one other negative for the HC2, due to the locked down
natu=
re it=E2=80=99s not possible to add templates for device features that are
=
not already included in the firmware of the OS.=C2=A0 It has to be done by
=
emailing Fibaro the technical specs of the product you want adding
together=
with a template of the device you included in your system and they say it =
will be added in a coming firmware update.=C2=A0 At the moment this is a
sl=
ow process due to their
workload.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal=
><span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-=
language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span styl=
e=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN=
-US'>This is a very good resource from Vesternet and shows what devices
the=
y have tested with each controller/firmware.=C2=A0 IT=E2=80=99S A MUST
READ=
!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Ari=
al","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><a href=3D"http://www.vesternet.com/compat=
ibility/z-wave-compatibility-guide"><span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","san=
s-serif";mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>http://www.vesternet.com/compatibility=
/z-wave-compatibility-guide</span></a><span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p></o:p></span></p>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:=
#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
class=3D=
MsoNormal><span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso=
-fareast-language:EN-US'>Yes you are welcome to TeamViewer in to my HC2
whe=
n do you want to do it?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span sty=
le=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:E=
N-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'=
font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>=
Steve</span><span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>=
&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br>Kind
Regards, <br>_________________=
________________________&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>Steve
Jones<br><br><o:p></o:p></sp=
an></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-=
serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></=
p><div><div style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
1.0pt;padding:3.0=
pt 0mm 0mm 0mm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'font-si=
ze:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
lang=3D=
EN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>
ukha_d=
@yahoogroups.com [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
<br><b>Sent:</b> 19 April =
2015 09:18<br><b>To:</b>
ukha_d@xxxxxxx<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [ukh=
a_d] Best wire free alarm system with Z Wave
connectivity?<o:p></o:p></span=
></p></div></div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoNo=
rmal>&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></p><div
id=3Dygrp-mlmsg><div id=3Dygrp-msg><div id=
=3Dygrp-text><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Thanks
Steve,<o:p></o:p></p></div><d=
iv><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNorma=
l>I'm pretty excited about the HC2 and particularly the dimmer modules
etc =
that they have. Seem to have the functionality I use regularly with my
CBus=
units but at a fraction of the cost! Obviously no LCD displays but should =
be good with the right switches (still to
research).&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></=
div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMs=
oNormal>I might take you up on having a look around your system when you
ha=
ve a mo if that's still
ok?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:=
12.0pt'>Cheers,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>Paul.<o:p></o:p></p=
></div></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>O=
n 19 Apr 2015, at 09:02, Steve Jones <a href=3D"mailto:email@xxxxxxx=
">email@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@yahoogroup=
s.com">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquot=
e
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p
class=3DMsoNo=
rmal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
sty=
le=3D'color:#1F497D'>Yes I prefer the HC2 for two reasons.&nbsp;
</span><o:=
p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></=
p><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto'><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>One it has a faster
response time th=
an the VeraLite. i.e. when multiple commands are sent at once, dim, dim
etc=
. (However the VeraLite is a low spec controller and there are other Veras
=
options also available). Dont forget both Fibaro and Vera will interface
wi=
th HomeVision via http requests I can help you with this if you need
it.</s=
pan><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;ms=
o-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p><=
/o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-b=
ottom-alt:auto'><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>The other reason is
it has a =
much better user interface, both for setup and what I can endpoint
screens.=
iPad and iPhone, I dont have any Android but there is a Fibaro App availab=
le for this also.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-ma=
rgin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'=
>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-a=
lt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>The negat=
ives for Fibaro </span><o:p></o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoListParagraph><span sty=
le=3D'color:#1F497D'>1)</span><span
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'=
>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; </span><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>The OS has been to=
tally revamped around Christmas time and has been released as a beta, it
st=
ill has many bugs.&nbsp; Fibaro are fixing them but they are
slow.&nbsp; Wh=
en the HC2 is shipped it comes with the stable version but not as feature
r=
ich as the beta upgrades. (Im not sure what features are missing.) As we
ar=
e on the cutting edge/early adopters a lot of us dont mind waiting for
upda=
tes, tinkering and fixing stuff with workarounds.&nbsp;
</span><o:p></o:p><=
/p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><=
o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>2)<=
/span><span
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</sp=
an><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>The Fibaro forums are useful but
not as ma=
ture as the Micasaverde (Vera)
forums</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoLi=
stParagraph><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p
cl=
ass=3DMsoListParagraph><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>3)</span><span style=
=3D'font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span style=3D=
'color:#1F497D'>Even though the user interfaces are nice they are not
custo=
misable. I believe you can use Roomie, NetIO or a simple webpage via the
HT=
TP API if this is
needed.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoListParagraph>=
<span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoLis=
tParagraph><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>4)</span><span
style=3D'font-size:=
7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span style=3D'color:#1F497D=
'>No third party plug-ins allowed yet by Fibaro
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p cl=
ass=3DMsoListParagraph><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:=
p></p><p class=3DMsoListParagraph><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>5)</span><s=
pan
style=3D'font-size:7.0pt;color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;
</span><span=
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>A problem for both the Fibaro and the Vera there
a=
re no I/Os on the controllers, they are wireless only units, hence good we
=
have the HTTP API. In the future I may look at using some itach devices.
</=
span><span
style=3D'font-size:10.5pt;color:#555555;background:white'>design=
ed to connect almost any electrical device to a network in a matter of
minu=
tes</span><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>
&nbsp;</span><a href=3D"http://www=
.globalcache.com/products/itach/">http://www.globalcache.com/products/itach=
/</a><o:p></o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoListParagraph><span style=3D'color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top=
-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Good lu=
ck with you final choice, I would love to hear what you go for and your
exp=
eriences.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top=
-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;<=
/span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:=
auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Steve&nbsp;<=
br>&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br>Kind
Regards, <br>________________________=
_________________&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>Steve
Jones<br></span><a href=3D"mailto:e=
mail@xxxxxxx"><span
style=3D'color:#0563C1'>email@xxxxxxx</sp=
an></a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-al=
t:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</sp=
an><o:p></o:p></p><div><div
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1=
.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0mm 0mm 0mm'><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-to=
p-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-=
size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>=
<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>
[<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>] <b=
r><b>Sent:</b> 19 April 2015
08:22<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@y=
ahoogroups.com">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a><br><b>Subject:</b>
RE: [ukha_d] =
Best wire free alarm system with Z Wave
connectivity?</span><o:p></o:p></p>=
</div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-m=
argin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></p><div i=
d=3Dygrp-mlmsg><div id=3Dygrp-msg><div
id=3Dygrp-text><div><div><p class=3D=
MsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Than=
ks Steve,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin=
-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto'>You mentioned that you're going from Vera to HC2. Which do you
prefer=
? I'm guessing the
HC2?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></=
p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-marg=
in-bottom-alt:auto'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal s=
tyle=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:=
p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-=
margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Paul.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p
class=3DMsoNormal styl=
e=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p><=
/p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-=
bottom:12.0pt'>_____________________________<br>From: Steve Jones
<a href=
=3D"mailto:email@xxxxxxx";>email@xxxxxxx</a>
[ukha_d] &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br>Sen=
t: Sunday, April 19, 2015 07:59<br>Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Best wire
free ala=
rm system with Z Wave connectivity?<br>To: &lt;<a
href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@yah=
oogroups.com">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;<br><br><br><br><br><o:p></o:p>=
</p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-b=
ottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><=
p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto'><span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Hi
Paul,</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=
=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><=
span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoNorm=
al style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=
=3D'color:#1F497D'>I cant help you with advice on Z-Wave Alarm
systems.&nbs=
p; However, if you end up choosing the Fibaro Home Center 2 it has a built
=
in plug-in for a Satel Alarm System. Im sure the Vera will have many more
p=
lug-in options for alarms.&nbsp;
</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal=
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=
=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=
=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'colo=
r:#1F497D'>The Fibaro is sadly lacking in plug-ins, as its not currently
op=
en to third party developers. Albeit its said to be coming in the future.
<=
/span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:=
auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'>&nbsp;</span=
><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto=
;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><span
style=3D'color:#1F497D'><br>&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<b=
r>Kind Regards,
<br>_________________________________________&nbsp;&nbsp;
<=
br>Steve
Jones</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div
style=3D'border:none;border-t=
op:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0mm 0mm 0mm'><p
class=3DMsoNormal styl=
e=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
lang=3DEN=
-US style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'=
font-size:11.0pt'> <a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@yahoogr=
oups.com</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>mailto:ukha_d@yahoo=
groups.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 19 April 2015
07:39<br><b>To:</b> <a href=
=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a><br><b>Subject=
:</b> [ukha_d] Best wire free alarm system with Z Wave
connectivity?</span>=
<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt=
:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal=
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;
<o:p><=
/o:p></p><div id=3Dygrp-mlmsg><div
id=3Dygrp-msg><div id=3Dygrp-text><div><=
p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:=
auto'>So as I'll be losing Comfort in the new house, what wire-free
alarm s=
ystems that have good Z Wave connectivity should I be looking at? Not
inter=
ested in a monitored system but something that is reliable with battery
pow=
ered PIRs etc. main panel can be mains powered of
course.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p><=
/p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-mar=
gin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal s=
tyle=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p=
><div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bott=
om-alt:auto'>Paul.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal styl=
e=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 16 Apr
2015, at 0=
7:58, Paul Gale <a href=3D"mailto:groups2@xxxxxxx";>groups2@silicon=
pixel.com</a> [ukha_d] &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d=
@yahoogroups.com</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote
style=3D'ma=
rgin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D=
'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-si=
ze:11.0pt'>Thanks Steve </span><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:=
Wingdings'>J</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-ma=
rgin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0=
pt'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-to=
p-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>Pau=
l.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-=
alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt'>&nbsp=
;</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E=
1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0mm 0mm 0mm'><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-marg=
in-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
lang=3DEN-US style=3D'=
font-size:11.0pt'>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.=
0pt'> <a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>
=
[<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a=
>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 16 April 2015
07:44<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ukh=
a_d@xxxxxxx">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a><br><b>Subject:</b>
[ukha_d]=
Re: Best group/forum for z wave and alarm
advice?</span><o:p></o:p></p></d=
iv></div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-b=
ottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-marg=
in-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div>=
<p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt=
:auto'><a href=3D"http://forum.fibaro.com/";>http://forum.fibaro.com/</a><o:=
p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:aut=
o;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMs=
oNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><a hre=
f=3D"http://forum.micasaverde.com/";>http://forum.micasaverde.com/</a><o:p><=
/o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:a=
uto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3D=
MsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><br>=
&nbsp;<br>Kind Regards,
<br>_________________________<br>Steve Jones<br><a =
href=3D"mailto:email@xxxxxxx";>email@xxxxxxx</a>
<o:p></o:p></=
p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-marg=
in-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><p
class=3DMsoNo=
rmal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br><br><o:=
p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margi=
n-bottom-alt:auto'><img border=3D0 width=3D1 height=3D1
id=3D"_x0000_i1025"=
src=3D"http://s.bl-1.com/jqvvCZM.gif";
alt=3D"
"><o:p></o:p></p></div></div=
></blockquote></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:=
auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><p
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p=
></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div><div><p
class=
=3DMsoNormal><span
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