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Thanks Steve,
I'm pretty excited about the HC2 and particularly the dimmer modules etc
th=
at they have. Seem to have the functionality I use regularly with my CBus
u=
nits but at a fraction of the cost! Obviously no LCD displays but should
be=
good with the right switches (still to research).
I might take you up on having a look around your system when you have a mo
=
if that's still ok?
Cheers,
Paul.
On 19 Apr 2015, at 09:02, Steve Jones email@xxxxxxx<mailto:email@ste=
vejones.org> [ukha_d] <ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx=
>> wrote:
Yes I prefer the HC2 for two reasons.
One it has a faster response time than the VeraLite. i.e. when multiple
com=
mands are sent at once, dim, dim etc. (However the VeraLite is a low spec
c=
ontroller and there are other Vera=92s options also available). Don=92t
for=
get both Fibaro and Vera will interface with HomeVision via http requests
I=
can help you with this if you need it.
The other reason is it has a much better user interface, both for setup
and=
what I can endpoint screens. iPad and iPhone, I don=92t have any Android b=
ut there is a Fibaro App available for this also.
The negatives for Fibaro =96
1) The OS has been totally revamped around Christmas time and has been
r=
eleased as a beta, it still has many bugs. Fibaro are fixing them but
they=
are slow. When the HC2 is shipped it comes with the stable version but no=
t as feature rich as the beta upgrades. (I=92m not sure what features are
m=
issing.) As we are on the cutting edge/early adopters a lot of us don=92t
m=
ind waiting for updates, tinkering and fixing stuff with workarounds.
2) The Fibaro forums are useful but not as mature as the Micasaverde
(Ve=
ra) forums
3) Even though the user interfaces are nice they are not customisable.
I=
believe you can use Roomie, NetIO or a simple webpage via the HTTP API if =
this is needed.
4) No third party plug-ins allowed yet by Fibaro
5) A problem for both the Fibaro and the Vera there are no I/O=92s on
th=
e controllers, they are wireless only units, hence good we have the HTTP
AP=
I. In the future I may look at using some itach devices. =91designed to
con=
nect almost any electrical device to a network in a matter of minutes=92
h=
ttp://www.globalcache.com/products/itach/
Good luck with you final choice, I would love to hear what you go for and
y=
our experiences.
Steve
Kind Regards,
_________________________________________
Steve Jones
email@xxxxxxx<mailto:email@xxxxxxx>
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx> [mailto:ukha_d@=
yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 19 April 2015 08:22
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Best wire free alarm system with Z Wave connectivity?
Thanks Steve,
You mentioned that you're going from Vera to HC2. Which do you prefer? I'm
=
guessing the HC2?
Thanks,
Paul.
_____________________________
From: Steve Jones email@xxxxxxx<mailto:email@xxxxxxx> [ukha_d=
] <ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>>
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 07:59
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Best wire free alarm system with Z Wave connectivity?
To: <ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>>
Hi Paul,
I can=92t help you with advice on Z-Wave Alarm systems. However, if you
en=
d up choosing the Fibaro Home Center 2 it has a built in plug-in for a
Sate=
l Alarm System. I=92m sure the Vera will have many more plug-in options
for=
alarms.
The Fibaro is sadly lacking in plug-in=92s, as it=92s not currently open
to=
third party developers. Albeit it=92s said to be coming in the future.
Kind Regards,
_________________________________________
Steve Jones
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx> [mailto:ukha_d@=
yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 19 April 2015 07:39
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [ukha_d] Best wire free alarm system with Z Wave connectivity?
So as I'll be losing Comfort in the new house, what wire-free alarm
systems=
that have good Z Wave connectivity should I be looking at? Not interested =
in a monitored system but something that is reliable with battery powered
P=
IRs etc. main panel can be mains powered of course.
Thanks,
Paul.
On 16 Apr 2015, at 07:58, Paul Gale groups2@xxxxxxx<mailto:groups2=
@siliconpixel.com> [ukha_d] <ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@yahoogrou=
ps.com>> wrote:
Thanks Steve :)
Paul.
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx> [mailto:ukha_d@=
yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 16 April 2015 07:44
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Best group/forum for z wave and alarm advice?
http://forum.fibaro.com/
http://forum.micasaverde.com/
Kind Regards,
_________________________
Steve Jones
email@xxxxxxx<mailto:email@xxxxxxx>
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<div>Thanks Steve,</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I'm pretty excited about the HC2 and particularly the dimmer
modules e=
tc that they have. Seem to have the functionality I use regularly with my
C=
Bus units but at a fraction of the cost! Obviously no LCD displays but
shou=
ld be good with the right switches
(still to research). </div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I might take you up on having a look around your system when you
have =
a mo if that's still ok?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers,<br>
<br>
<div><span style=3D"background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255,
0);">Paul.</span>=
</div>
</div>
<div><br>
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name=3D"_MailEndCompose"><span style=3D"font-fami=
ly:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-langu=
age:EN-US">Yes I prefer the HC2 for two reasons.
<o:p></o:p></span></a></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">One
it has a fast=
er response time than the VeraLite. i.e. when multiple commands are sent
at=
once, dim, dim etc. (However the VeraLite is a low spec
controller and there are other Vera=92s options also available). Don=92t f=
orget both Fibaro and Vera will interface with HomeVision via http
requests=
I can help you with this if you need
it.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The
other reason =
is it has a much better user interface, both for setup and what I can
endpo=
int screens. iPad and iPhone, I don=92t have any Android but
there is a Fibaro App available for this
also.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p>=
</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The
negatives for=
Fibaro =96<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"
style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 leve=
l1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial&qu=
ot;,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><span
=
style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">1)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman=
"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial&q=
uot;,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The
O=
S has been totally revamped around Christmas time and has been released as
=
a beta, it still has many bugs. Fibaro are fixing them
but they are slow. When the HC2 is shipped it comes with the
stable =
version but not as feature rich as the beta upgrades. (I=92m not sure what
=
features are missing.) As we are on the cutting edge/early adopters a lot
o=
f us don=92t mind waiting for updates, tinkering
and fixing stuff with workarounds.
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial",=
"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> =
;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"
style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 leve=
l1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial&qu=
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=
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"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial&q=
uot;,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">The
F=
ibaro forums are useful but not as mature as the Micasaverde (Vera)
forums<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial",=
"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> =
;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"
style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 leve=
l1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial&qu=
ot;,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><span
=
style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">3)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt
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"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial&q=
uot;,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Even
=
though the user interfaces are nice they are not customisable. I believe
yo=
u can use Roomie, NetIO or a simple webpage via the HTTP
API if this is needed.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial",=
"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> =
;</o:p></span></p>
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ot;,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><span
=
style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">4)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman=
"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial&q=
uot;,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">No
th=
ird party plug-ins allowed yet by Fibaro
<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial",=
"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> =
;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"
style=3D"text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l1 leve=
l1 lfo2"><!--[if !supportLists]--><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial&qu=
ot;,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><span
=
style=3D"mso-list:Ignore">5)<span style=3D"font:7.0pt
"Times New Roman=
"">
</span></span></span><!--[endif]--><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial&q=
uot;,"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">A
pro=
blem for both the Fibaro and the Vera there are no I/O=92s on the
controlle=
rs, they are wireless only units, hence good we have the
HTTP API. In the future I may look at using some itach devices.
=91</span>=
<span
style=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-se=
rif";color:#555555;background:white">designed to connect
almost any el=
ectrical device to a network in a matter of minutes=92</span><span
style=3D=
"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-far=
east-language:EN-US">
</span><a href=3D"http://www.globalcache.com/products/itach/";><span
=
style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";mso-fareast-l=
anguage:EN-US">http://www.globalcache.com/products/itach/</span></a><span
s=
tyle=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;=
mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoListParagraph"><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial",=
"sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> =
;</o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Good
luck with yo=
u final choice, I would love to hear what you go for and your
experiences.<=
o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p>=
</span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">Steve</span><span=
style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D"> <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
Kind Regards, <br>
_________________________________________ <br>
Steve Jones<br>
</span><a href=3D"mailto:email@xxxxxxx";><span
style=3D"font-family:&=
quot;Arial","sans-serif";color:#0563C1">email@xxxxxxx=
</span></a><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial","sans-serif&qu=
ot;;color:#1F497D"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-family:"Arial","s=
ans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p> </o:p>=
</span></p>
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1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0mm =
0mm 0mm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span
lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;fo=
nt-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span=
lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",&=
quot;sans-serif"">
<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>
[<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 April 2015 08:22<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx=
</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [ukha_d] Best wire free alarm system with Z
Wave connec=
tivity?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg">
<div id=3D"ygrp-msg">
<div id=3D"ygrp-text">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks
Steve,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">You mentioned that you're going from
Vera to HC2. Wh=
ich do you prefer? I'm guessing the HC2?<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal">Paul.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p
class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt">_____________________=
________<br>
From: Steve Jones <a href=3D"mailto:email@xxxxxxx";>email@stevejones.=
org</a> [ukha_d] <<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@yahoo=
groups.com</a>><br>
Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2015 07:59<br>
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Best wire free alarm system with Z Wave
connectivity?=
<br>
To: <<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a=
>><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">Hi
Paul,</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">I can=92t
help you with advice on Z-=
Wave Alarm systems. However, if you end up choosing the Fibaro
Home C=
enter 2 it has a built in plug-in for a Satel
Alarm System. I=92m sure the Vera will have many more plug-in options for =
alarms.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D">The Fibaro
is sadly lacking in plug-=
in=92s, as it=92s not currently open to third party developers. Albeit it=
=92s said to be coming in the future.
</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span
style=3D"color:#1F497D"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0p=
t"><span style=3D"color:#1F497D"><br>
<br>
<br>
Kind Regards, <br>
_________________________________________ <br>
Steve Jones</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0mm =
0mm 0mm">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b=
><span lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">
<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>
[<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 19 April 2015 07:39<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx=
</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ukha_d] Best wire free alarm system with Z
Wave connectivi=
ty?</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg">
<div id=3D"ygrp-msg">
<div id=3D"ygrp-text">
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">So as I'll be losing Comfort in the new house, what
wire-free alar=
m systems that have good Z Wave connectivity should I be looking at? Not
in=
terested in a monitored system but something
that is reliable with battery powered PIRs etc. main panel can be mains po=
wered of course. <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0p=
t">Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto">Paul.<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0p=
t"><br>
On 16 Apr 2015, at 07:58, Paul Gale <a href=3D"mailto:groups2@siliconpixel.=
com">groups2@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] <<a
href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@yah=
oogroups.com">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt">
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Thanks
Steve
</span><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings">J</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">Paul.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt"> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1
1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0mm =
0mm 0mm">
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style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">From:</span></b=
><span lang=3D"EN-US"
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt">
<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>
[<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 16 April 2015 07:44<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx=
</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [ukha_d] Re: Best group/forum for z wave and
alarm advice?<=
/span><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0p=
t"><br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></p>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><a href=3D"http://forum.fibaro.com/";>http://forum.fibaro.com/</a><=
o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><a href=3D"http://forum.micasaverde.com/";>http://forum.micasaverde=
.com/</a><o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"> <o:p></o:p></p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"
style=3D"mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-a=
lt:auto"><br>
<br>
Kind Regards, <br>
_________________________<br>
Steve Jones<br>
<a href=3D"mailto:email@xxxxxxx";>email@xxxxxxx</a>
<o:p></o:p=
></p>
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