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RE: Best wire free alarm system with Z Wave connectivity?



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Hi Paul,

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I can=E2=80=99t help you with advice on Z-Wave Alarm systems.  However, if
=
you end up choosing the Fibaro Home Center 2 it has a built in plug-in for
=
a Satel Alarm System. I=E2=80=99m sure the Vera will have many more
plug-in=
options for alarms.=20=20

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The Fibaro is sadly lacking in plug-in=E2=80=99s, as it=E2=80=99s not
curre=
ntly open to third party developers. Albeit it=E2=80=99s said to be coming
=
in the future.=20

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=20
Kind Regards,=20
_________________________________________=20=20=20
Steve Jones



From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]=20
Sent: 19 April 2015 07:39
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: [ukha_d] Best wire free alarm system with Z Wave connectivity?

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So as I'll be losing Comfort in the new house, what wire-free alarm
systems=
that have good Z Wave connectivity should I be looking at? Not interested =
in a monitored system but something that is reliable with battery powered
P=
IRs etc. main panel can be mains powered of course.=20

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Thanks,

Paul.


On 16 Apr 2015, at 07:58, Paul Gale groups2@xxxxxxx <mailto:groups=
2@xxxxxxx>  [ukha_d] <ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@yahoog=
roups.com> > wrote:

Thanks Steve :)

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Paul.

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From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>  [mailto:ukha_=
d@xxxxxxx]=20
Sent: 16 April 2015 07:44
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>=20
Subject: [ukha_d] Re: Best group/forum for z wave and alarm advice?

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http://forum.fibaro.com/

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http://forum.micasaverde.com/

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Kind Regards,=20
_________________________
Steve Jones
email@xxxxxxx <mailto:email@xxxxxxx>=20=20

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anguage:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></a></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span s=
tyle=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language=
:EN-US'>Hi Paul,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'f=
ont-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><=
o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:=
"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I
can=E2=80=
=99t help you with advice on Z-Wave Alarm systems.=C2=A0 However, if you
en=
d up choosing the Fibaro Home Center 2 it has a built in plug-in for a
Sate=
l Alarm System. I=E2=80=99m sure the Vera will have many more plug-in
optio=
ns for alarms.=C2=A0 <o:p></o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=
=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-=
US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-fa=
mily:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>The
Fib=
aro is sadly lacking in plug-in=E2=80=99s, as it=E2=80=99s not currently
op=
en to third party developers. Albeit it=E2=80=99s said to be coming in the
=
future. <o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p
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iv><p class=3DMsoNormal><span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";col=
or:#1F497D'><br>&nbsp;<br>&nbsp;<br>Kind
Regards, <br>_____________________=
____________________&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>Steve
Jones<br><br></span><span style=
=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-=
US'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><div
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #=
E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0mm 0mm 0mm'><p
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=
=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From=
:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calib=
ri","sans-serif"'> ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] <=
br><b>Sent:</b> 19 April 2015
07:39<br><b>To:</b> ukha_d@xxxxxxx<br=
><b>Subject:</b> [ukha_d] Best wire free alarm system with Z
Wave connectiv=
ity?<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p=
></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;
<o:p></o:p></p><div id=3Dygrp-mlmsg><div i=
d=3Dygrp-msg><div id=3Dygrp-text><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>So as I'll be lo=
sing Comfort in the new house, what wire-free alarm systems that have good
=
Z Wave connectivity should I be looking at? Not interested in a monitored
s=
ystem but something that is reliable with battery powered PIRs etc. main
pa=
nel can be mains powered of
course.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=
=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'=
margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Thanks,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal>Paul.=
<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom=
:12.0pt'><br>On 16 Apr 2015, at 07:58, Paul Gale <a
href=3D"mailto:groups2@=
siliconpixel.com">groups2@xxxxxxx</a> [ukha_d] &lt;<a
href=3D"mail=
to:ukha_d@xxxxxxx">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;
wrote:<o:p></o:p>=
</p></div><blockquote
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><=
div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom=
-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"=
'>Thanks Steve </span><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings=
'>J</span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-margin-top-=
alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-f=
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class=3DMsoNor=
mal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
styl=
e=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Paul.</span><o:p>=
</o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-m=
argin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Arial",=
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class=3DMsoNorma=
l
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
lan=
g=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>Fro=
m:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Cali=
bri","sans-serif"'> <a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@yahoog=
roups.com</a> [<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>mailto:ukha_d@yaho=
ogroups.com</a>] <br><b>Sent:</b> 16 April 2015
07:44<br><b>To:</b> <a href=
=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a><br><b>Subject=
:</b> [ukha_d] Re: Best group/forum for z wave and alarm
advice?</span><o:p=
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o;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></p><p
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</p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-mar=
gin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a hr=
ef=3D"http://forum.fibaro.com/";
target=3D"_parent">http://forum.fibaro.com/=
</a></span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'mso-marg=
in-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-family:"Ari=
al","sans-serif"'>&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
class=3DMsoNorm=
al style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=
=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'><a
href=3D"http://forum.micasaverde.c=
om/" target=3D"_parent">http://forum.micasaverde.com/</a></span><o:p></o:p>=
</p></div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;m=
so-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-family:"Arial","sans-serif"'=
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argin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style=3D'font-family:"=
Arial","sans-serif"'><br>&nbsp;<br>Kind
Regards, <br>______________________=
___<br>Steve Jones<br><a href=3D"mailto:email@xxxxxxx";>email@stevejo=
nes.org</a>
</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p
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