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RE: ZWave Repeater



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OK, this repeater is still out of stock so still not had a chance to try
it=
.  I've asked when it's due back in stock and apparently it may not be.
The=
company that makes them will apparently be releasing a new Z-Wave Plus  re=
peater device. Not sure what ZWave Plus is, but let's hope it's backward
co=
mpatible with my older devices :)

From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
Sent: 11 March 2015 17:20
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] ZWave Repeater


Nice, I didn't know about the Z-Net. I've registered my interest.. let's
ho=
pe they make it :)

Tempted to just buy one of the repeaters to test it out, but after some
rec=
ent nightmares with Z-wave (mainly zwave.me devices) I am a little worried
=
about buying unproven items :)

Cheers

Marc

From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx> [mailto:ukha_d@=
yahoogroups.com]
Sent: 11 March 2015 10:51
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx<mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] ZWave Repeater


Looks a neat inconspicuous device  , I'm interested in feedback too.

Although a typical HA overkill solution  HomeSeer have 'Z-Net' an Ethernet
=
linked Z-Wave controller to extend your Z-Wave network into other
buildings=
etc.  It can have an optional USB>WiFi stick added  if you had WiFi
range.=
But $150 is a big difference in cost to a repeater and it doesn't sound l=
ike you'll have an Ethernet cable at your remote end so would need power
li=
ne Ethernet adaptor.   There's no European frequency version just yet but
t=
here's a vote thread linked below for registering interest.

http://store.homeseer.com/store/x-P1902C66.aspx
http://board.homeseer.com/showthread.php?t=3D173012

K

On 11/03/2015 08:48, Marc Fuller marc@xxxxxxx<mailto:marc@sereni=
tymeadow.com> [ukha_d] wrote:
Hi All,

Hope all is well? List is quiet nowadays :(

Anyways, I am trying to extend Z-Wave into the garden as I slowly replace
X=
10. I'm having trouble getting it outside the house boundary. I have 1
plug=
in unit on the inside of the wall, and another one in the conservatory,
but=
neither will see a plugin unit located in the external box (about 5ft away=
from the external wall).

So, I was looking at one of these.

http://www.vesternet.com/z-wave-vision-repeater

It seems to have a longer range (200m) than the normal plugin units (100m)
=
but wanted to know if anyone has had any real world use of these units? Do
=
they actually work any better?

Thanks in advance.




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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">OK,
this repeater is still out of stock so still not had a chance to try it.
&nbsp;I&#8217;ve asked when it&#8217;s due back in stock and
apparently
it may not be. The company that makes them will apparently be releasing a
new Z-Wave Plus&nbsp; repeater device. Not sure what ZWave Plus is, but
let&#8217;s hope it&#8217;s backward compatible with my older
devices
</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US">J</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
lang="EN-US"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 March 2015 17:20<br>
<b>To:</b> ukha_d@xxxxxxx<br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [ukha_d] ZWave
Repeater<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Nice,
I didn&#8217;t know about the Z-Net. I&#8217;ve registered my
interest.. let&#8217;s hope they make it
</span><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Tempted
to just buy one of the repeaters to test it out, but after some recent
nightmares with Z-wave
(mainly zwave.me devices) I am a little worried about buying unproven items
</span>
<span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D">J</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Cheers</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif;color:#1F497D">Marc</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
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lang="EN-US"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">From:</span></b><span
lang="EN-US"
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:&quot;Calibri&quot;,sans-serif">
<a href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>
[<a href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>]
<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 11 March 2015 10:51<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";>ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ukha_d] ZWave
Repeater</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto">Looks
a neat inconspicuous device&nbsp; , I'm interested in feedback
too.<br>
<br>
Although a typical HA overkill solution&nbsp; HomeSeer have 'Z-Net' an
Ethernet linked Z-Wave controller to extend your Z-Wave network into other
buildings etc.&nbsp; It can have an optional USB&gt;WiFi stick
added&nbsp; if you had WiFi range.&nbsp; But $150 is a big
difference in
cost to a repeater and it doesn't sound like you'll have an Ethernet cable
at your remote end so would need power line Ethernet adaptor. &nbsp;
There's no European frequency version just yet but there's a vote thread
linked below for registering interest.<br>
<br>
<a href="http://store.homeseer.com/store/x-P1902C66.aspx";>http://store.homeseer.com/store/x-P1902C66.aspx</a><br>
<a href="http://board.homeseer.com/showthread.php?t=173012";>http://board.homeseer.com/showthread.php?t=173012</a><br>
<br>
&nbsp; K<br>
<br>
On 11/03/2015 08:48, Marc Fuller <a href="mailto:marc@xxxxxxx";>marc@xxxxxxx</a>
[ukha_d] wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333;background:#FAFAFA">Hi
All,</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333"><br>
<br>
<span style="background:#FAFAFA">Hope all is well? List is
quiet nowadays </span>
</span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#333333;background:#FAFAFA">L</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333;background:#FAFAFA">&nbsp;</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"
style="mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333;background:#FAFAFA">Anyways,
I am trying to extend Z-Wave into the garden as I slowly replace X10. I'm
having trouble getting it outside the house boundary. I have 1 plugin unit
on the inside of the wall, and another one in the conservatory, but neither
will see a plugin unit located in the external box (about 5ft away from the
external wall).<span
class="apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333"><br>
<br>
<span style="background:#FAFAFA">So, I was looking at one
of these.<span
class="apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span></span><br>
<br>
</span><a href="http://www.vesternet.com/z-wave-vision-repeater";
target="_blank"><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#417394;background:#FAFAFA;text-decoration:none">http://www.vesternet.com/z-wave-vision-repeater</span></a><span
style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:&quot;Verdana&quot;,sans-serif;color:#333333"><br>
<br>
<span style="background:#FAFAFA">It seems to have a longer
range (200m) than the normal plugin units (100m) but wanted to know if
anyone has had any real world use of these units? Do they actually work any
better?</span><br>
<br>
<span style="background:#FAFAFA">Thanks in
advance.</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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