[Message Prev][Message
Next][Thread Prev][Thread Next][Message
Index][Thread Index]
Re: RE: Wireless Access Points?
--------------040609010607000006080303
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
I have a set-up like this, with maybe five access points (including one
in the shed!). However I still get the issue where a device will hang
onto the AP it originally connected to until it drops off the radar
rather than switch to other APs with much stronger signals. I think
there is a more recent 802.11 standard that manages roaming much better
but general APs or routers all seems to have this issue in my experience.
Phil
On 25/02/2014 10:40, Tim Hawes wrote:
>
>
> I'm doing this currently with a mixed collection of routers (Vigor, BT
> Home Hub 2 and a Belkin one).
> From memory the general process is:
> - use the same SSID and passphrase on all routers
> - use the same security settings on all routers (i.e. don't use WPA on
> one and WEP on another)
> - disable DHCP and NAT from all except your "master" router
> - assign channels on nearby access points as far away from each other
> as possible, and also avoid being on the same/nearby channels as your
> neighbours. Use channels 1, 6 & 13 for starters but also be aware
of
> what else is "near" the router i.e. what channels are your
neighbours
> using?
> - ensure the IP addresses of each of the access points ( /routers) are
> unique within your network (they'll often default to a .250-something
> address.
> - just ignore any bleating from the router saying that it can't find
> an ADSL/cable connection
>
> It works well for me. One network name, and devices connect to the
> access point which gives the best signal. I *presume* devices roam as
> we don't see any drop-outs when moving around the house! Having a
> single SSID means users don't need to switch between wireless networks
> as they move around.
>
> All access points are connected to a wired network - they don't
> operate in "repeater" mode (or whatever it's called :-) )
>
> HTH,
> Tim.
>
>
>
> On 25 February 2014 08:42, Nicholas Humfrey <njh@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:njh@xxxxxxx>> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> On 25 Feb 2014, at 01:33, "Dave McLaughlin"
> <dave@xxxxxxx <mailto:dave@xxxxxxx>>
> wrote:
>
>> I've done this with Netgear routers. I can't recall the exact
>> steps, but it was about setting different channels and a few
>> other configurations but it does work. Much easier than my
>> original setup with a different name. It doesn't move from
point
>> to point so well but the same AP does.
>>
>> I did a Google search on it. Tons of stuff on how to do this.
>>
>
> Could you be more specific on this Dave?
>
> Would love to know the name of the protocol/standard that enables
> this functionality, so I can look out for it when buying APs.
>
> nick.
>
>
>
>> *From:*ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
>> [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] *On Behalf Of
*Nicholas Humfrey
>> *Sent:* 24 February 2014 06:29
>> *To:* ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx>
>> *Subject:* Re: [ukha_d] RE: Wireless Access Points?
>>
>> If you have more then one access point in a house, a really
nice
>> feature to have is roaming - so you can move about the house
and
>> devices automatically/ quickly move from one AP to another
>> without dropping network connections. This is a very common
>> feature on 'enterprise' networks but less common in homes. If
you
>> setup Apple APs with a network with the same name and security
>> setting, you can seamlessly move between them. I believe that
the
>> APs talk to each other over the wired network to achieve this.
I
>> haven't had much success with other brands of network hardware
-
>> such as Netgear.
>>
>> nick.
>>
>
>
>
--------------040609010607000006080303
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
<head>
<style type="text/css">
<!--
/* start of attachment style */
.ygrp-photo-title{
clear: both;
font-size: smaller;
height: 15px;
overflow: hidden;
text-align: center;
width: 75px;
}
div.ygrp-photo{
background-position: center;
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-color: white;
border: 1px solid black;
height: 62px;
width: 62px;
}
div.photo-title
a,
div.photo-title a:active,
div.photo-title a:hover,
div.photo-title a:visited {
text-decoration: none;
}
div.attach-table div.attach-row {
clear: both;
}
div.attach-table div.attach-row div {
float: left;
/* margin: 2px;*/
}
p {
clear: both;
padding: 15px 0 3px 0;
overflow: hidden;
}
div.ygrp-file {
width: 30px;
valign: middle;
}
div.attach-table div.attach-row div div a {
text-decoration: none;
}
div.attach-table div.attach-row div div span {
font-weight: normal;
}
div.ygrp-file-title {
font-weight: bold;
}
/* end of attachment style */
-->
</style>
</head>
<html>
<head>
<meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"
http-equiv="Content-Type">
</head>
<body text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF">
<!-- **begin egp html banner** -->
<br><br>
<!-- **end egp html banner** -->
I have a set-up like this, with maybe five access points (including
one in the shed!). However I still get the issue where a device will
hang onto the AP it originally connected to until it drops off the
radar rather than switch to other APs with much stronger signals. I
think there is a more recent 802.11 standard that manages roaming
much better but general APs or routers all seems to have this issue
in my experience.<br>
<br>
Phil<br>
<br>
<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 25/02/2014 10:40, Tim Hawes
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:CAJBJGNtXjcBdhHhZfrCxPzMk_gH81wLgDvCNNi1Y2dWpKZVquw@xxxxxxx"
type="cite">
<style type="text/css">
<!--
/* start of attachment style */
.ygrp-photo-title{
clear: both;
font-size: smaller;
height: 15px;
overflow: hidden;
text-align: center;
width: 75px;
}
div.ygrp-photo{
background-position: center;
background-repeat: no-repeat;
background-color: white;
border: 1px solid black;
height: 62px;
width: 62px;
}
div.photo-title
a,
div.photo-title a:active,
div.photo-title a:hover,
div.photo-title a:visited {
text-decoration: none;
}
div.attach-table div.attach-row {
clear: both;
}
div.attach-table div.attach-row div {
float: left;
/* margin: 2px;*/
}
p {
clear: both;
padding: 15px 0 3px 0;
overflow: hidden;
}
div.ygrp-file {
width: 30px;
valign: middle;
}
div.attach-table div.attach-row div div a {
text-decoration: none;
}
div.attach-table div.attach-row div div span {
font-weight: normal;
}
div.ygrp-file-title {
font-weight: bold;
}
/* end of attachment style */
-->
</style>
<style type="text/css">
<!--
#ygrp-mkp {
border: 1px solid #d8d8d8;
font-family: Arial;
margin: 10px 0;
padding: 0 10px;
}
#ygrp-mkp hr {
border: 1px solid #d8d8d8;
}
#ygrp-mkp #hd {
color: #628c2a;
font-size: 85%;
font-weight: 700;
line-height: 122%;
margin: 10px 0;
}
#ygrp-mkp #ads {
margin-bottom: 10px;
}
#ygrp-mkp .ad {
padding: 0 0;
}
#ygrp-mkp .ad p {
margin: 0;
}
#ygrp-mkp .ad a {
color: #0000ff;
text-decoration: none;
}
-->
</style>
<div dir="ltr">I'm doing this currently with a mixed
collection of
routers (Vigor, BT Home Hub 2 and a Belkin one).
<div>From memory the general process is:</div>
<div>- use the same SSID and passphrase on all routers</div>
<div>- use the same security settings on all routers (i.e. don't
use WPA on one and WEP on another)</div>
<div>- disable DHCP and NAT from all except your "master"
router</div>
<div>- assign channels on nearby access points as far away from
each other as possible, and also avoid being on the
same/nearby channels as your neighbours. Use channels 1, 6
& 13 for starters but also be aware of what else is
"near"
the router i.e. what channels are your neighbours using?</div>
<div>- ensure the IP addresses of each of the access points (
/routers) are unique within your network (they'll often
default to a .250-something address.</div>
<div>- just ignore any bleating from the router saying that it
can't find an ADSL/cable connection</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It works well for me. One network name, and devices connect
to the access point which gives the best signal. I *presume*
devices roam as we don't see any drop-outs when moving around
the house! Having a single SSID means users don't need to
switch between wireless networks as they move around.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>All access points are connected to a wired network - they
don't operate in "repeater" mode (or whatever it's called :-)
)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>HTH,</div>
<div>Tim.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 25 February 2014 08:42,
Nicholas
Humfrey <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:njh@xxxxxxx";
target="_blank">njh@xxxxxxx</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="">
<div dir="auto">
<br>
<br>
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
On 25 Feb 2014, at 01:33, "Dave McLaughlin" <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:dave@xxxxxxx";
target="_blank">dave@xxxxxxx</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<span> </span>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"><a moz-do-not-send="true"
name="144683826c72a477__MailEndCompose"><span
style="font-size:10pt">I've done this with
Netgear routers. I can't recall the exact
steps, but it was about setting different
channels and a few other configurations
but it does work. Much easier than my
original setup with a different name. It
doesn't move from point to point so well
but the same AP does.</span></a></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:10pt">I did a Google search
on it. Tons of stuff on how to do this.</span></p>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div>Could you be more specific on this Dave?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Would love to know the name of the protocol/standard
that enables this functionality, so I can look out for
it when buying APs.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>nick.</div>
<div class="">
<div class="h5">
<div><br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<br>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div
style="border-top-style:solid;border-top-color:rgb(181,196,223);border-top-width:1pt">
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
style="font-size:10pt"
lang="EN-US">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size:10pt" lang="EN-US">
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
target="_blank">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>
[<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
target="_blank">mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Nicholas
Humfrey<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 24 February 2014 06:29<br>
<b>To:</b> <a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx";
target="_blank">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ukha_d] RE:
Wireless Access Points?</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">If you have
more then one access point in a
house, a really nice feature to
have is roaming - so you can move
about the house and devices
automatically/ quickly move from
one AP to another without dropping
network connections. This is a
very common feature on
'enterprise' networks but less
common in homes. If you setup
Apple APs with a network with the
same name and security setting,
you can seamlessly move between
them. I believe that the APs talk
to each other over the wired
network to achieve this. I haven't
had much success with other brands
of network hardware - such as
Netgear.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
</div>
<div>
<p class="MsoNormal">nick.</p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</div>
</div>
<div width="1" style="color: white; clear:
both;"></div>
</blockquote>
<br>
<!-- **begin egp html banner** -->
<br>
<br>
<!-- **end egp html banner** -->
<div width="1" style="color: white; clear:
both;"/>__._,_.___</div>
<!-- Start Recommendations -->
<!-- End Recommendations -->
<!-- **begin egp html banner** -->
<br><br>
<tt>
<*> Join the Automated Home Forums<BR>
<a href="http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/vbulletin/";>http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/vbulletin/</a><BR>
<BR>
<*> UKHA_D Mailing list in association with:<BR>
<a href="http://www.automatedhome.co.uk";>http://www.automatedhome.co.uk</a><BR>
<BR>
<BR>
</tt>
<br><br>
<!-- **end egp html banner** -->
<!-- **begin egp html banner** -->
<img src="http://geo.yahoo.com/serv?s=97476590/grpId=1109639/grpspId=1705041992/msgId=164745/stime=1394702829";
width="1" height="1"> <br>
<!-- **end egp html banner** -->
<!-- **begin egp html banner** -->
<br>
<!-- **begin egp html banner** -->
<div id="ygrp-vital" style="background-color: #f2f2f2;
font-family: Verdana; font-size: 10px; margin-bottom: 10px; padding:
10px;">
<span id="vithd" style="font-weight: bold; color: #333;
text-transform: uppercase; "><a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/group/ukha_d;_ylc=X3oDMTJla2tyNDdsBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE0BGdycElkAzExMDk2MzkEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDQxOTkyBHNlYwN2dGwEc2xrA3ZnaHAEc3RpbWUDMTM5NDcwMjgyOQ--";
style="text-decoration: none;">Visit Your
Group</a></span>
<ul style="list-style-type: none; margin: 0; padding: 0; display:
inline;">
</ul>
</div>
<div id="ft" style="font-family: Arial; font-size: 11px;
margin-top: 5px; padding: 0 2px 0 0; clear: both;">
<a href="https://groups.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTJkanF2MW1kBF9TAzk3NDc2NTkwBGdycElkAzExMDk2MzkEZ3Jwc3BJZAMxNzA1MDQxOTkyBHNlYwNmdHIEc2xrA2dmcARzdGltZQMxMzk0NzAyODI5";
style="float: left;"><img src="http://l.yimg.com/ru/static/images/yg/img/email/new_logo/logo-groups-137x15.png";
height="15" width="<? ol
var!Pref.EmailFooterLogo.FullFeatured.Width ?>" alt="Yahoo!
Groups" style="border: 0;"/></a>
<div style="color: #747575; float: right;"> •
<a href="https://info.yahoo.com/privacy/us/yahoo/groups/details.html";
style="text-decoration: none;">Privacy</a> •
<a href="mailto:ukha_d-unsubscribe@xxxxxxx?subject=Unsubscribe";
style="text-decoration: none;">Unsubscribe</a>
• <a href="https://info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/terms/";
style="text-decoration: none;">Terms of Use</a>
</div>
</div>
<!-- **end egp html banner** -->
</div> <!-- ygrp-msg -->
<br>
<!-- **end egp html banner** -->
<div style="color: white; clear:
both;"/>__,_._,___</div>
</body>
</html>
--------------040609010607000006080303--
UKHA_D Main Index |
UKHA_D Thread Index |
UKHA_D Home |
Archives Home
|
![http://l.yimg.com/ru/static/images/yg/img/email/new_logo/logo-groups-137x15.png"](http://l.yimg.com/ru/static/images/yg/img/email/new_logo/logo-groups-137x15.png"){kind=link}