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Hello Mark

I've done exactly what your electrician is recommending.
Running the lighting and switch cables back to a central rail gives you
the=
ultimate flexibility and will ensure that you are future proofed.
You'll be able to  make a decision on the system that you want further
down=
the line and be able to alter it with the passage of time.
Something that will be difficult or perhaps impossible if you make a
decisi=
on on a dedicated system now.

Regards

Tracey
----- Original Message -----=20
From: Peer Oliver Schmidt posde@xxxxxxx [ukha_d]=20
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx=20
Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] new build lighting system?





Hello Mark,

Hi all, I am in the process of building a new home and would like to in=
stall a lighting system that can be centrally controlled with a Mac using
i=
ndigo (probably). My intention is for all the lights to be led, some
colour=
ed most dimmable. Origionally i was going to use zwave but due to the
build=
ing method I can only fit slim switch back boxes ~25cm, which kind of
rules=
out the behind switch zwave switches. I suppose I could get integrated zwa=
ve switches like gira, but my electrician has suggested running all the
lig=
hts back to a central rail. He also suggested that rf can be a little
unrel=
iable in houses soaked in thick kingspan. So opinions please! Which system
=
should I opt for, that's the right mix of economy, compatibility, and
funct=
ionality? Thanks Mark=20


if I were to think about installing lighting in a new build (or during re=
novation) I would *always* go with KNX based system. You can get
everything=
you need, and it is rock-solid. If you do it right, ie. buy mostly central=
switching equipment, and limit yourself to sensors on the walls that trans=
fer the commands to the central location, you will most probable be in
with=
less money, than with Z-Wave. Still not cheap, but not as expensive as mos=
t people think, when they hear KNX.

And I am pretty sure, indigo does support KNX (never checked, but would s=
urprise me, if they don't)

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Best regards

Peer Oliver Schmidt
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<DIV><FONT face=3DCalibri>Running the lighting and switch
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future=
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<DIV><FONT face=3DCalibri>Something that will be difficult or
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<DIV><FONT face=3DCalibri>Regards</FONT></DIV>
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