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Hello Mark,
> Hi all, I am in the process of building a new home and would like to
> install a lighting system that can be centrally controlled with a Mac
> using indigo (probably). My intention is for all the lights to be led,
> some coloured most dimmable. Origionally i was going to use zwave but
> due to the building method I can only fit slim switch back boxes
> ~25cm, which kind of rules out the behind switch zwave switches. I
> suppose I could get integrated zwave switches like gira, but my
> electrician has suggested running all the lights back to a central
> rail. He also suggested that rf can be a little unreliable in houses
> soaked in thick kingspan. So opinions please! Which system should I
> opt for, that's the right mix of economy, compatibility, and
> functionality? Thanks Mark

if I were to think about installing lighting in a new build (or during
renovation) I would *always* go with KNX based system. You can get
everything you need, and it is rock-solid. If you do it right, ie. buy
mostly central switching equipment, and limit yourself to sensors on the
walls that transfer the commands to the central location, you will most
probable be in with less money, than with Z-Wave. Still not cheap, but
not as expensive as most people think, when they hear KNX.

And I am pretty sure, indigo does support KNX (never checked, but would
surprise me, if they don't)

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process of building a new home and would like to install a
lighting system that can be centrally controlled with a Mac using
indigo (probably). My intention is for all the lights to be led,
some coloured most dimmable. Origionally i was going to use zwave
but due to the building method I can only fit slim switch back
boxes ~25cm, which kind of rules out the behind switch zwave
switches. I suppose I could get integrated zwave switches like
gira, but my electrician has suggested running all the lights back
to a central rail. He also suggested that rf can be a little
unreliable in houses soaked in thick kingspan. So opinions please!
Which system should I opt for, that's the right mix of economy,
compatibility, and functionality? Thanks Mark
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if I were to think about installing lighting in a new build (or
during renovation) I would *always* go with KNX based system. You
can get everything you need, and it is rock-solid. If you do it
right, ie. buy mostly central switching equipment, and limit
yourself to sensors on the walls that transfer the commands to the
central location, you will most probable be in with less money, than
with Z-Wave. Still not cheap, but not as expensive as most people
think, when they hear KNX.<br>
<br>
And I am pretty sure, indigo does support KNX (never checked, but
would surprise me, if they don't)<br>
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Best regards

Peer Oliver Schmidt
the internet company
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