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Thanks Kevin - some useful tips and I'll need to check on a few points
before (eventually) buying.
Will also need to thread an optical lead down the conduit buried in the
wall behind the TV down to the boxes underneath. This might be the hardest
bit...
Cheers,
Tim.
On 23 October 2013 10:54, Kevin Hawkins <yahoogroupskh@xxxxxxx>wrote=
:
>
>
> Do read up on the PlayBar carefully - it's a good product but just not
> quite as well thought through as the usual Sonos gear. Having said
that=
I
> do use one myself and am very pleased with it.
>
> The satellite speakers (if you use them) must be Play 3's and not Play
5'=
s
> . I think Play 1's are OK too.
>
> The remote volume operation uses your existing IR remote and you must
be
> able to disable the internal speaker control on your TV.
>
> The audio sources for your TV whether internal tuner, HDMI or
optical/coa=
x
> must be routed via Toslink optical to the Sonos PlayBar and for best
> results remain in Dolby Digital 5.1 .. DTS is not supported. However
> usually (legal requirement ??) for HDMI sources the TV will only
provide
> PCM stereo out which is then ProLogic processed back to surround
effect =
by
> the PlayBar. There are workarounds with HDMI audio extractors and
> digital switchers but it then doesn't retain the seamless switching
that
> keeps SWMBO happy.
>
> On Sonos generally I am still really pleased and continue to expand,
eve=
n
> after seven years or so which is not the norm in this industry.
Highly
> recommended and it now integrates well with my HA.
>
> Only ongoing niggle is that I wish they would implement some
> controller>zone restriction so that your kids / visitors can't
force mus=
ic
> of their choice / volume into your bedroom at any time of the night
using
> their phone app. If you've awoken with Dizee Rascal in bed at 3am
then
> please vote for this feature too...;-)
>
> https://ask.sonos.com/sonos/topics/restrict_access_to_certain_zones?
>
> K
>
>
>
>
> In 23/10/2013 09:14, Tim Hawes wrote:
>
> Thanks Neil.
> There was also another odd comment - someone complaining that
"mute"
> didn't do the same as "pause" or "stop"... Funny
that!
>
> Think I'm sold on Sonos now. Have already got eyes on a playbar for
the
> TV... :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Tim.
>
>
> On 22 October 2013 15:56, Neil Ball <neilball@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> As you=92ve guessed, if you mute a stream it continues playing.
Stoppin=
g
>> a stream does indeed stop the stream properly.
>>
>>
>>
>> Neil B.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] *On
>> Behalf Of *Tim Hawes
>> *Sent:* 22 October 2013 15:42
>> *To:* ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>> *Subject:* Re: [ukha_d] Kitchen radio options - Sonos?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Guys,
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks for the replies and thumbs-up for Sonos. Internet radio
*will* be
>> easier than the aux-in fudge, however...
>>
>> Reading the reviews of the Play:5, one person complained that the
unit
>> kept streaming data even though it was "off" and thus
landed them with a
>> big bill for broadband usage. Can anyone verify if this is the
case on
>> their units?
>>
>> I can't see why it would, unless they hit "mute", rather
than "stop".
>>
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Tim.
>>
>>
>>
>> On 22 October 2013 10:53, Neil Ball <neilball@xxxxxxx>
wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> Sonos has access to internet radio including all of the BBC
national and
>> most local stations too, so no need to use the Sky/Aux input
method.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Kevin - some useful tips and
I'll need to check=
on a few points before (eventually) buying.=A0<div>Will also need to
threa=
d an optical lead down the conduit buried in the wall behind the TV down
to=
the boxes underneath. This might be the hardest bit...</div>
<div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div><div>Tim.</div></div><div
class=3D"gmail_e=
xtra"><br><br><div
class=3D"gmail_quote">On 23 October 2013 10:54, Kevin Ha=
wkins <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:yahoogroupskh@xxxxxxx"=
target=3D"_blank">yahoogroupskh@xxxxxxx</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<div>Do read up on the PlayBar carefully -
it's a good product but just not quite as well thought through as
the usual Sonos gear. =A0 Having said that I do use one myself and
am very pleased with it.<br>
<br>
The satellite speakers (if you use them) must be Play 3's and not
Play 5's .=A0 I think Play 1's are OK too. <br>
<br>
The remote volume operation uses your existing IR remote and you
must be able to disable the internal speaker control on your TV.<br>
<br>
The audio sources for your TV whether internal tuner, HDMI or
optical/coax must be routed via Toslink optical to the Sonos
PlayBar and for best results remain=A0 in Dolby Digital 5.1 .. DTS
is not supported.=A0 However usually (legal requirement ??) for HDMI
sources the TV will only provide PCM stereo out which is then
ProLogic processed back=A0 to surround effect by the PlayBar.=A0=A0=
=A0
There are workarounds with HDMI audio extractors and digital
switchers but it then doesn't retain the seamless switching that
keeps SWMBO happy.<br>
<br>
On Sonos generally=A0 I am still really pleased and continue to
expand, even after seven years or so which is not the norm in this
industry.=A0 Highly recommended and it now integrates well with my
HA.<br>
<br>
Only ongoing niggle is that I wish they would implement some
controller>zone restriction=A0 so that your kids / visitors
can=
9;t
force music of their choice / volume into your bedroom at any time
of the night using their phone app.=A0=A0 If you've awoken with D=
izee
Rascal in bed at 3am then please vote for this feature too...;-)<br>
<br>
<a href=3D"https://ask.sonos.com/sonos/topics/restrict_access_to_cert=
ain_zones?" target=3D"_blank">https://ask.sonos.com/sonos/topics/restrict_a=
ccess_to_certain_zones?</a><span
class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><=
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<br>
K</font></span><div><div
class=3D"h5"><br>
<br>
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In 23/10/2013 09:14, Tim Hawes wrote:<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks Neil.=A0
<div>There was also another odd comment - someone complaining
that "mute" didn't do the same as
"pause"=
or "stop"... Funny
that!</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Think I'm sold on Sonos now. Have already got eyes on a
playbar for the TV... :-)</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Cheers,</div>
<div>Tim.</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br>
<br>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 22 October 2013 15:56, Neil
Ball <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:neilball@xxxxxxx";
target=3D"_bl=
ank">neilball@xxxxxxx</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">As
you=92ve guessed, if you mute a stream it continues
playing. Stopping a stream does indeed stop the
stream properly.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font=
-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">=A0</span=
></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span
style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font=
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B.</span></p>
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lang=3D"EN-US">Fr=
om:</span></b><span
style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma"=
;,"sans-serif"" lang=3D"EN-US"> <a
href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@yahoogro=
ups.com" target=3D"_blank">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>
[mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx"; t=
arget=3D"_blank">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a>] <b>On
Behalf Of </b>Tim Hawes<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 22 October 2013 15:42<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx=
" target=3D"_blank">ukha_d@xxxxxxx</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ukha_d] Kitchen radio
options - Sonos?</span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0 </p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Guys,</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Thanks for the
replies and thumbs-up for Sonos.
Internet radio *will* be easier than the
aux-in fudge, however...</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Reading the reviews
of the Play:5, one person complained
that the unit kept streaming data even
though it was "off" and thus land=
ed them
with a big bill for broadband usage. Can
anyone verify if this is the case on
their units?</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">I can't see why it
would, unless they hit "mute", ra=
ther
than "stop".</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=A0</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">
Cheers,</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">Tim.</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom=
:12.0pt">=A0</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">On 22 October 2013
10:53, Neil Ball <<a href=3D"mailto:ne=
ilball@xxxxxxx"
target=3D"_blank">neilball@xxxxxxx</a>>
wrote:</p>
<div>
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ttom:12.0pt">=A0</p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:11.0pt;color:#1f497d">Sonos
has access to internet radio
including all of the BBC
national and most local stations
too, so no need to use the
Sky/Aux input method.=A0</span></p>
</div>
</div>
</div>
</div>
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