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This is done as I get films though r=
ather than a bulk convert - when I get some serious storage then that will
=
no doubt happen with the wall of media in the lounge :-0

Following up on a=
nother post - I've also heard the WD boxes 'work' also. Although the chap
t=
hat uses his says he copies the films to a USB HD and plugs that up
direct.=


Cheers
Wayne.



On 3 Nov 2013, at 10:09, Ben McCormack <yahoogroup@think=
inghouse.co.uk> wrote:

>
> Paul
>
> What about running them through Hand=
break and putting them into a format that iTunes recognises. You can then
i=
mport into iTunes are stream to Apple TV, ipad etc etc.
>
> Ben
>
> Sent =
from my iPad
>
> On 3 Nov 2013, at 03:10, Paul Gordon <paul_gordon@hotmail=
.com> wrote:
>
>> Thanks all for the responses so far.
>>
>> I have been =
ripping DVDs to VOB files in video_ts folders for many years now. I don't
h=
ave any blu-ray rips, - I had no inclination to start buying/renting yet
an=
other optical disc format.. So I have some 600-700 odd movies ripped from
D=
VD. I therefore don't care about the ability to play anything else,
includi=
ng 1080p as I don't have any content in that format, and to be truthful,
al=
though it does look nice, I'm not sufficiently impressed by the resolution
=
improvement to make a switch to blu-ray, with all the extra  space that
req=
uires... Frankly, I'm more concerned with the 'quality' of the movie
itself=
(acting, dialogue, FX, script, cinematography etc.) I'd far rather watch a=
'good' film in DVD quality than a shite film (anything by Michael Bay??) i=
n high res...
>>
>> They're all on a QNAP NAS, which does have a plex clie=
nt available, which I did try (with plex client on Apple TV). It looked
lov=
ely, and all seemed fine until trying to actually play something... It
will=
not play my content... I presume it does not like video_ts folders.
>>
>>=
PC based solutions are not desirable, regardless of whether it's running w=
indows or Linux, or even a mac... I don't want power hungry devices or
fans=
running all the time. It needs to be a small box, totally silent (no fan) =
and very low power.
>>
>> It needs to have an attractive user friendly UI,=
with cover art, and ideally movies synopsies, in a simple to navigate inte=
rface. As I said before, IMO the native Apple TV one is the best I've seen
=
yet, so the closest it's possible to get to that would be my ideal.
>>
>> =
Still looking...
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 3 Nov 2013, at 07:28, "=
Robin Edwards" <robin@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm using Popcornhour=
C200 seems to do the job for me.  There's a newer model not sure how it im=
proves on the C200.  I originally had all my mkvs along with my flacs on a
=
bubba2 however it only had a 1TB hard drive and was close to full.  I put
a=
2TB drive in the popcorn and moved the mkvs onto it.
>>>
>>> It has a re=
asonable UI including info and art from imdb.  I have played mp3s on it as
=
well but only to see if they work.
>>>
>>> I make my mkvs with Handbrake o=
n Mint and move over with filezilla, just a simple setup
>>>
>>> Robin
>>>=

>>> There are three kinds of people in this world, those that can
count a=
nd those that can't.
>>>
>>> Robin Edwards
>>> 07773-674010
>>>
>>>
>>> =
On 2 Nov 2013, at 19:59, Paul Gordon <paul_gordon@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>
=
>>>> Thanks. I'll look into the dune offerings.... Of equal
interest as the=
playback of my chosen format, is the UI... the *perfect* UI is the Apple T=
V one... Nothing else comes close... So many of the other streamer boxes
I'=
ve seen have a shite file explorer like interface... No cover art, no
metad=
ata, etc...
>>>>
>>>> I've seen and used xbmc in the past, and liked it, b=
ut I will not have a PC involved in the setup.
>>>>
>>>> Not played with r=
pi... Not interested in cobbling together DIY solutions... I want
something=
I can buy, unwrap, plug in, and watch movies...
>>>>
>>>> Looked at plex,=
but try as I might, I absolutely could not get it to play ripped DVDs alth=
ough the interface did look jolly nice.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPad
=
>>>>
>>>> On 2 Nov 2013, at 20:38, "Brian Smith"
<brian@xxxxxxx> wro=
te:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Paul
>>>>>
>>>>> I have a couple of Dune players (a 101=
and 301) and they have played everything I have asked them to.  Never quit=
e got around to it but they also support control via the mymovies iPad app
=
if that's of interest.
>>>>>
>>>>> If there is any you want me to try file=
format / bit rate wise then let me know.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>> =
Brian
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2 Nov 2013, at 19:10, Paul Gordon
<paul_gordon@hotmai=
l.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ok, so I'm sitting here looking at my =
jailbroken Apple TV2 contstantly saying "Loading"... 15 minutes
now and imp=
atient kids waiting for Star Wars,... Another 5 minutes and it's going out
=
of this 2nd floor window.... Like pretty much anything that isn't genuine
a=
pple, it's utter shite...
>>>>>> The software is slow, buggy, and not a pa=
tch on the real thing... If I could I'd just go to iTunes and pay for the
d=
amn movie (again) just to get the media I want when I want it, but
unfortun=
ately, the Star Wars films aren't on iTunes... They are all on my NAS of
co=
urse, as ripped DVD's in video_ts folders... So sick am I of the piss poor
=
performance of jailbroken kit, that I am now resolved to find another box
t=
hat does this better...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, the question is, what *is* the b=
est box for streaming my own personal content? Most of the front runners
do=
n't do it... I tried a windows PC for a couple of years, - I'm never going
=
down that route again... Roku doesn't do local content... Apple TV doesn't
=
do it without jail breaking, and doing that to it turns it into a pile of
s=
hite...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Surely in this day and age, it cannot be beyond
the =
wit of mankind to make a box that is as good as a proper Apple TV, but
whic=
h will play my ripped DVD's... Is that really so much to ask?
>>>>>>
>>>>>=
> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>>
>>>>>> > On 28 Oct 2013, at 09:32, "Mark McCall=
" <lists@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > http://autoho.me/1a=
Od65H
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > M.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > ------------------=
------------------
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Yahoo! Groups Links
>>>>>> =
>
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>>
>
>


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I second Bens suggestion,<div><br></div><div>I
either convert with Handbrake directly from DVD or use MakeMKV to get a
blue ray ripped and then send that through Handbrake to get it to
iTunes.</div><div>From that - they get run through a program
called iDentify to add the Meta data and artwork. Admittedly - all done on
a mac which has the iTunes Library on
there.</div><div><br></div><div>This is done
as I get films though rather than a bulk convert - when I get some serious
storage then that will no doubt happen with the wall of media in the lounge
:-0</div><div><br></div><div>Following up on
another post - I've also heard the WD boxes 'work' also. Although the chap
that uses his says he copies the films to a USB HD and plugs that up
direct.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers</div><div>Wayne.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div
><br><div><div>On 3 Nov 2013, at 10:09, Ben McCormack
&lt;<a href="mailto:yahoogroup@xxxxxxx";>yahoogroup@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;
wrote
:</div><br
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style="line-height: 1.22em;">Paul</div><div styl
e="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height:
1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;">What about running them through Handbreak and putting them
into
a format that iTunes recognises. You can then import into iTunes are stream
to Apple TV, ipad etc etc.</div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;"><br style="line-height:
1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;">Ben<br style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br
style="line-height: 1.22em;">Sent from my
iPad</div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br
style="line-height: 1.22em;">On 3 Nov 2013, at 03:10, Paul
Gordon &lt;<a href="mailto:paul_gordon@xxxxxxx";
style="line-height:
1.22em;">paul_gordon@xxxxxxx</a>&gt; wrote:<br
style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height:
1.22em;"></div><blockquote type="cite"
style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 4px; line-height: 1.22em;"><div
style="line-height: 1.22em;"><div sty
le="line-height: 1.22em;">Thanks all for the responses so
far.</div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br
style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div
style="line-height: 1.22em;">I have been ripping DVDs to VOB
files in video_ts folders for many years now. I don't have any blu-
ray rips, - I had no inclination to start buying/renting yet another
optical disc format.. So I have some 600-700 odd movies ripped from DVD. I
therefore don't care about the ability to play anything else, including
1080p as I don't have any content in that format, and to be truthful,
although it does look nice, I'm not sufficiently impressed by the
resolution improvement to make a switch to blu-ray, with all the extra
&nbsp;space that requires... Frankly, I'm more concerned with the
'quality' of the movie itself (acting, dialogue, FX, script, cinematography
etc.) I'd far rather watch a 'good' film in DVD quality than a shite film
(anything by Michael Bay??) in high res...</div><div
style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height:
1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;">They're all on a QNAP NAS, which does have a plex client
available, which I did try (with plex client on Apple TV). It looked
lovely, and all seemed fine until tryi
ng to actually play something..
. It will not play my content... I presume it does not like video_ts
folders.</div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;"><br style="line-height:
1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;">PC based solutions are not desirable, regardless of
whether it's running windows or Linux, or even a mac... I don't want power
hungry devices or fans running all the time. It needs to be a small box,
totally silent (no fan) and very low power.</div><div
style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height:
1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;">It needs to have an attractive user friendly UI, with
cover art, and ideally movies synopsies, in a simple to navigate interface.
As I said before, IMO the native Apple TV one is the best I've seen yet, so
the closest it's possible to get to that would be my
ideal.</div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br
style="line-heigh
t: 1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;">Still looking...</div><div
style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style
="line-height: 1.22em;">Sent from my iPad</div><div
style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height:
1.22em;">On 3 Nov 2013, at 07:28, "Robin Edwards"
&lt;<a href="mailto:robin@xxxxxxx";
style="line-height: 1.22em;">robin@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;
wrote:<br style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br
style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><blockquote
type="cite" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 4px; line-height:
1.22em;"><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"><div
style="line-height: 1.22em;">I'm using Popcornhour C200 seems
to do the job for me. &nbsp;There's a newer model not sure how it
improves on the C200. &nbsp;I originally had all my mkvs along with my
flacs on a bubba2 however it only had a 1TB hard drive and was close to
full. &nbsp;I put a 2TB drive in the popcorn and m
oved the mkvs onto it.&nbsp;</div><div
style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height:
1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;">It has a reasonable UI including info and art from imdb.
&nbsp;I have playe
d mp3s on it as well but only to see if they work.</div><div
style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height:
1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;">I make my mkvs with Handbrake on Mint and move over with
filezilla, just a simple setup</div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;"><br style="line-height:
1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;">Robin<br style="line-height:
1.22em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;"><div
style="line-height: 1.22em;">There are three kinds of people
in this world, those that can count and those that can't.</div><br
style="line-height: 1.22em;"><div style="line-height:
1.22em;">Robin Edwards</div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;">07773-674010</div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22e
m;"></div></div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;">On 2 Nov
2013, at 19:59, Paul Gordon &lt;<a href="mailto:paul_gordon@xxxxxxx";
style="line-height:
1.22em;">paul_gordon@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;
wrote:<br style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br
style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><blockquote
type="cite" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 4px; line-height:
1.22em;"><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"><div
style="line-height: 1.22em;">Thanks. I'll look into the dune
offerings.... Of equal interest as the playback of my chosen format, is the
UI... the *perfect* UI is the Apple TV one... Nothing else comes close...
So many of the other streamer boxes I've seen have a shite file explorer
like interface... No cover art, no metadata, etc...</div><div
style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height:
1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;">I've seen and used xbmc in the past, and liked it, but I
will not have a PC involved in the setup.</div><div
style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height:
1.22em;"></div>&
lt;div style="line-height: 1.22em;">Not played with rpi... Not
interested in cobbling together DIY solutions... I want something I can
buy, unwrap, plug in, and watch mov
ies...</div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br
style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div
style="line-height: 1.22em;">Looked at plex, but try as I
might, I absolutely could not get it to play ripped DVDs although the
interface did look jolly nice.</div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br
style="line-height: 1.22em;">Sent from my
iPad</div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br
style="line-height: 1.22em;">On 2 Nov 2013, at 20:38,
"Brian Smith" &lt;<a href="mailto:brian@xxxxxxx";
style="line-height: 1.22em;">brian@xxxxxxx</a>&gt;
wrote:<br style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br
style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><blockquote
type="cite" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 4px; line-
height: 1.22em;"><div style="line-height:
1.22em;"><div style="line-height: 1.22em;">Hi
Paul</div><div style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br
style="line-height: 1.22em;"></div><div
style="line-height: 1.22em;">I have a couple of Dune players
(a 101 and 301) and they have pl
ayed everything I have asked them to. &nbsp;Never quite got around to
it but they also support control via the mymovies iPad app if that's of
interest.</div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;"><br style="line-height:
1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;">If there is any you want me to try file format / bit rate
wise then let me know.</div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;"><br style="line-height:
1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;">Cheers</div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;"><br style="line-height:
1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;">Brian<br style="line-height:
1.22em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;">On 2 Nov
2013, at 19:10, Paul Gordon &lt;<a href="mailto:paul_gordon@xxxxxxx";
st
yle="line-height:
1.22em;">paul_gordon@xxxxxxx</a>&gt; wrote:<br
style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br style="line-height:
1.22em;"></div><div style="line-height:
1.22em;"></div><blockquote type="cite"
style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 4px; line-height: 1.22em;"><di
v style="line-height: 1.22em;"><span
style="line-height: 1.22em;">&nbsp;</span><div
id="ygrp-text" style="line-height: 1.22em; font-family:
Georgia;"><p style="line-height: 1.22em; margin: 0px 0px
1em;">Ok, so I'm sitting here looking at my jailbroken Apple TV2
contstantly saying "Loading"... 15 minutes now and impatient kids
waiting for Star Wars,... Another 5 minutes and it's going out of this 2nd
floor window.... Like pretty much anything that isn't genuine apple, it's
utter shite...<span
class="Apple-converted-space">&nbsp;</span><br
style="line-height: 1.22em;">The software is slow, buggy, and
not a patch on the real thing... If I could I'd just go to iTunes and pay
for the damn movie (again) just to get the media I want when I want it, but
unfortunately, the Star Wars films aren't on iTunes... They are all on my
NAS of course, as ripped DVD's in video_ts folders... So si
ck am I of the piss poor performance of jailbroken kit, that I am now
resolved to find another box t
hat does this better...<br style="line-height:
1.22em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;">So, the
question is, what *is* the best box for streaming my own personal content?
Most of the front runners don't do it... I tried a windows PC for a couple
of years, - I'm never going down that route again... Roku doesn't do local
content... Apple TV doesn't do it without jail breaking, and doing that to
it turns it into a pile of shite...<br style="line-height:
1.22em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;">Surely in
this day and age, it cannot be beyond the wit of mankind to make a box that
is as good as a proper Apple TV, but which will play my ripped DVD's... Is
that really so much to ask?<br style="line-height:
1.22em;"><br style="line-height: 1.22em;">Sent from
my iPad<br style="line-height: 1.22em;"><br
style="line-height: 1.22em;">&gt; On 28 Oct 2013, at
09:32, "Mark McCall"
&lt;<a href="mailto:lists@xxxxxxx";
style="line-height: 1.22em; font-family: Verdana;">lists@autom
atedhome.co.uk</a>&gt; wrote:<br style="line-height:
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