Re: Central heating boilers

[Kevin Hawkins <yahoogroupskh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Exact same experience here with BG despite their assurances they've
become very competitive nowadays.    I reckon you can take a BG quote
and halve it based on what you might pay  from a competent local
installer... with a bit of research.

K

On 28/07/2013 11:31, Vargster wrote:
> BG? Seriously?
> This was three years back, but I had a quote for a new gas boiler
> (non-combi as I have solar panels) from BG. It was £3.5K.
> Another quote from an indi was £2K for that exact same install. I
went with
> a recommendation from a relation to another indi (ex-BG engineer) who
> installed a better in his opinion boiler for £1.5K. Which (touch
wood) had
> been spot on for three years...
>
> Lee
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 27, 2013 at 4:03 PM, Martin Howell
> <martin.howell@xxxxxxx>wrote:
>
>> **
>>
>>
>> Thanks to all who offered boiler suggestions, currently waiting
for the
>> man from B Gas to come and give a quote in a couple of weeks. The
old
>> boiler has done a good job of heating the place and if it wasn't
so
>> unreliable I would keep it. It lives on a north facing wall so
adding
>> the weather comp won't be a problem, I guess its benefit depends
on how
>> much Mr Gas charges for it. Watch this space.
>>
>> M
>>
>> Martin Howell
>> Woodworker, artist and engineer
>>
>> On 21/07/2013 21:42, Simon Haslam wrote:
>>> I've got a Viessmann WB1B system boiler (there's a newer WB1C
version
>> now) and have been v pleased with it - it has a long warranty (5
years or
>> so) and hasn't missed a beat (3 winters so far, serviced
annually). I had
>> some questions for their technical support and they were superb -
same day
>> usually, even when referred back to Germany. They're still fairly
unusual
>> in the UK I think - my plumbing firm sent one of their engineers
on the
>> Viessmann training in Telford to get them certified (and for the
extended
>> warranty). I did consider Keston as it would have been nice to use
a
>> British manufacturer and their specs looked OK, but sadly read
nothing but
>> trouble about them online. Vaillant was on my short-list too -
definitely
>> more plumbers know them but they didn't have an OpenTherm
interface (which
>> was on my HA wish-list, though as yet unused!). I think having
something
>> that your plumber will be familiar/happy with is important - in
that
>> respect Worcester
>>> Bosch is probably most common.
>>>
>>> I've also got weather compensation, plus my HA system can
switch in an
>> additional resistor (using a 1-wire controlled relay) to lower the
flow
>> temp further. If you compare the performance charts you will see a
10% or
>> more (IIRC) difference in efficiency at something like 70C flow
compared to
>> 40C (UFH) IIRC and so there are gains to be made. The benefit
probably
>> partly depends on whether you can be bothered turning down/up the
boiler
>> output between autumn/spring and winter though. Weather
compensation is
>> built into the Viessmann circuit board (this is their entry level
too) but
>> you need to buy their thermistor/cable assembly, though it wasn't
a
>> ludicrous price (~£20 I think) - providing you can get a
cable to a north
>> facing wall it seems pointless to scrimp on it. I think with a
better
>> insulated house the gain from weather compensation should be
better than an
>> old house too as you don't need a high output to change the
temperature,
>> only to maintain
>>> temperature in very cold weather. I can't remember if weather
comp is in
>> the building regs for new build yet but I expect it will be soon.
>>> Anyway, my new heating system made a huge saving on gas usage
(~50%) but
>> that was due to a lot of factors other than just the boiler
(re-siting the
>> boiler in the middle of the house & moving the pipes out of
the loft,
>> having a small condensing boiler instead of a 10 year old F-rated
oversized
>> (44kW!) clunker, proper controls (7 zones), etc, etc).
>>> HTH
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Simon
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