RE: CCTV DVR choices

[Paul Gordon <paul_gordon@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

Hold fire on that.... - it seems as though Henrys have put the WRONG
detail=
s
up on their webpage (not a great sign!)

When I started researching the 796B a little more, I very quickly noticed
that all other sources of information stated the same (lower) recording
rat=
e
as the 677...

When I emailed Henrys to query this, their guy confirmed that the specs for
the two units is the same, - so really there is no good reason to pay the
extra cash.... - the other differentiating features (video loop through on
each input, 2 x audio outs) really aren't important enough to warrant it...

Bummer...

In my trawling I have come across one which claims to do full rate
recordin=
g
across all 8 inputs simultaneously, but it *was* a =A3500+ unit, so as
ever=
,
one gets what one pays for...

Paul G.



-----Original Message-----
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Tim Hawes
Sent: 27 March 2012 13:36
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] CCTV DVR choices

Hi Paul,

Good spot!
I think what initially put me off was the optical drive - unnecessary for
me.
But it does have some other interesting features like loop-through of the
video streams and two separate monitor outputs, etc.
The increased frame rate is probably the most important thing though.
Otherwise they're pretty similar.

Maybe 500GB would be ok...

Haven't looked for any manuals yet, but will post back if I find any.

Cheers,
Tim.



On 27 March 2012 11:59, Paul Gordon <paul_gordon@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> I'm liking the look of the 796B a little more... - it has exactly=20
> double the recording rate, which I think will be quite valuable as
the=20
> number of cameras goes up... - especially if you have, - as I do -
a=20
> preference to always use the highest quality recording settings...
-=20
> 50 IPS at the highest res is already quite low... - I believe the=20
> total recording rate is that which is available across all
connected=20
> channels... - so with 2 cameras recording, that's 25 IPS /
camera....=20
> go to 4 cameras recording and that halves to just 12.5 IPS / camera
-=20
> already that's going to start looking a bit jerky... if you go the=20
> full hog and have all 8 cameras recording concurrently at the top=20
> resolution, there's only 6 IPS available per camera...
>
> I assume how this works out in practice is somewhat dependent on
how=20
> many cameras you will have recording concurrently, which in turn is=20
> dependent on your choice of settings?... - I plan to use motion=20
> activated in all cases, so I'd expect (hope!) that even with 8
cameras=20
> connected I'd never be actively recording more than a couple at=20
> once... worst case scenario though, even with 8 simultaneously=20
> recording channels, 100 IPS still equates to
> 12.5
> IPS/camera
>
> By dropping the pre-fitted HDD size option, this unit is hardly any=20
> dearer than the 677/1TB option - =A3300 jumps to =A3330, and also
feature=
s=20
> a pre fitted optical drive. Other than that, these two seem much
the=20
> same in most other regards, and since I have a cupboard full of 1TB=20
> hard drives... :-)
>
> Paul G.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf=20
> Of Tim Hawes
> Sent: 26 March 2012 17:01
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] CCTV DVR choices
>
> Hi Paul,
>
> I'm going through the same process just now, although I need
cameras=20
> as well. I quite like the "677" from www.henrys.co.uk - 8
channel, 1TB=20
> storage for =A3300+vat. I haven't investigated the wish list
features=20
> any further than a "ticking the box" exercise so quite what
the=20
> recorded resolution, or ease of use of remote interface is, I don't=20
> yet know.
>
> From what I recall, the 677 model (like many others at Henrys) uses
a=20
> 12-square grid for motion detection.
>
> Some of the resolution would be down the the spec of the cameras=20
> though, i.e. no. of lines, etc.??
>
> If I find any other likely contenders I'll report back :-)
>
> Cheers,
> Tim.
> On 26 March 2012 16:19, Paul Gordon <paul_gordon@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
> > Peeps, anyone got any opinions / recommendations for a good
choice=20
> > of network CCTV DVR?
> >
> >
> >
> > I=92m continuing on my quest to rid myself of the agony of
maintaining=
=20
> > a large Windows PC based HA setup, and the next item in my sights
is=20
> > my current Geovision based CCTV server=85
> >
> >
> >
> > I=92ve been quite happy with Geovision on the whole, but
nonetheless,=20
> > I=92m determined to move to something that isn=92t PC / Windows
based,=
=20
> > and for various reasons I want a dedicated, single purpose
analogue=20
> > network DVR. =96 I want to stick with analogue wired CCTV
primarily=20
> > because I=92ve already a fair few cameras installed, and
replacing=20
> > them all with IP cameras would: a) cost as much, if not more
than=20
> > just getting a new DVR, and b) give me a whole load more work to
do=20
> > actually replacing all the cameras, changing the wiring etc. =96
which=
=20
> > I really can=92t be arsed to do=85  (Yes, I know IP is the way to
go,=20
> > and at my *next* house, I will=85)
> >
> >
> >
> > It looks like there are a veritable plethora of similar H.264
based=20
> > units available, at a few different price points. Obviously I
know=20
> > that in general one gets what one pays for, however, having
already=20
> > done some side-by-side comparisons of a couple of the dearer
units=20
> > with a couple of the less expensive ones, the differentiating=20
> > features don=92t seem all that great, and are often in areas
that=20
> > aren=92t crucial to me=85 - things like central monitoring
station for=
=20
> > multiple units for example=85
> >
> >
> >
> > I=92m looking for an 8-channel unit, of which I have at least
4=20
> > channels already installed & ready to plug right in. None of
my=20
> > current cams have audio or PTZ, although that may change in
future,=20
> > so support for both is quite desirable=85 - although whether or
not I=20
> > need audio support for *all 8* channels is rather doubtful..
> >
> >
> >
> > I=92m not expecting specific recommendations for any particular
unit,=20
> > but I
> > *AM* interested in hearing if anyone has had any experiences,
either=20
> > good or bad, of one manufacturer vs. another=85 there are plenty
out=20
> > there, but the units themselves all look like they=92re OEM=92d
Chinese=
=20
> > units, so identifying any vendors USP isn=92t proving especially
easy=
=85
> >
> >
> >
> > My wish-list feature set includes:
> >
> > Decent remote network monitoring =96 would be nice if not based
on=20
> > ActiveX and thus limited to IE, but since Geovision live view
is,=20
> > that wouldn=92t be a huge downer=85 just so long as the browser
UI is=20
> > =93nice=94 =99
> >
> > Decent smartphone monitoring =96 primarily iDevices, but android
may=20
> > be a nice to have in the future
> >
> > Fairly good motion-activated recording, with flexible masking=20
> > options (all the units I=92ve seen so far aren=92t *quite* as
flexible=
=20
> > as Geovisions=92 image masking =96 GV=92s is free-form, whereas
everyth=
ing=20
> > I=92ve seen is based on a grid
> > system) =96 I suppose with a fine enough grid to define the
masked=20
> > areas this needn=92t be that much of a problem=85
> >
> > The best image & recording quality I can get =96 at a
reasonable price=
=20
> > =96 I would have to make a serious value judgement whether I
think it=20
> > work paying
> > =A3600 instead of =A3300 where the difference is just for a boost
in=20
> > resolution or frame rate=85 - I would *like* to be able to record
at=20
> > the highest quality settings on all 8 channels, but I=92d never
need=20
> > to do so concurrently (I envisage all channels set to motion
record,=20
> > so only
> > 1 or 2 channels should ever be recording simultaneously).
> >
> >
> >
> > I=92m really not fussed about fancy-pants features like ANPR,
face=20
> > tracking, object tracking, image analysis, and so on=85 GV has
many of=
=20
> > these, and I=92ve never used them once=85
> >
> >
> >
> > What I really need is just a good, solid, reliable easy to
configure=20
> > & use CCTV DVR that I can install then pretty much forget
about, and=20
> > not regret buying a year from now=85
> >
> >
> >
> > Grateful for any thoughts/feedback/opinions no matter how
small=85
> >
> >
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> >
> >
> > Paul G.
> >
>
>
>


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