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Re: 2012 and still no perfect UK HA light switch solution?



Context sensitive controls.

The bedside tablet displays a "Light off" switch, for either the
big
or table lamps. Tapping it sends the off command. Controls like these
reduce the need for extra screen real estate.

Steve

On Wed, Aug 15, 2012 at 12:59 AM, Stuart Billinghurst
<stuart@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> But to see if a light is on/off you need to look at the very same
control=
ler that you=92re going to send the off unless I have missed something? so
=
is status an unnecessary complication, is it just a nice to have but void
o=
f function? Saying that my LX does have status feedback, not built in
desig=
n but because of the way I designed the custom light switches to be
control=
led centrally and not via distribution with homevision but it wouldn=92t
be=
suitable for retro fit as in the OP=92s situation.
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> I guess I=92m looking for someone to point out a functional need for
2-wa=
y comms in LX design that I have missed.
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> Stuart.
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> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of=
David Claxton
> Sent: 15 August 2012 00:46
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] 2012 and still no perfect UK HA light switch
soluti=
on?
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> Not that your remote would be miles away or anything but if I had the
opt=
ion of getting out of bed to turn off a light that was already off or
seein=
g that the light was already off (thereby staying in bed) I know what I
wou=
ld choose. 80)
>
> Isn't the Insteon range supposed to be here very soon? Don't their
produc=
ts have two-way functionality?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On 14 Aug 2012, at 23:51, "Stuart Billinghurst"
<stuart@xxxxxxx=
<mailto:stuart%40billinghursts.com>
> wrote:
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>> But why is a current state of every light needed in an install
from a
>> function point of view not aesthetic that's a different thing
entirely,
>> because I toyed with this concept for long time as I started to
design o=
f my
>> own systems, and came to the conclusion that the only time I
needed to
>> really know the status was if I wanted to act upon it, so I only
need to
>> know a light is on, if for instance I wish to turn it off, but if
I don'=
t
>> know it's status and then send an off, I know it's off even if it
was of=
f
>> before (I hope this makes sense) in which case two way is just an
aesthe=
tic
>> consideration, unless I have missed a functional need somewhere?
>>
>> Stuart.
>>
>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
 [mailto:=
ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
] On Behalf Of
>> Mark J Cox
>> Sent: 14 August 2012 19:35
>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
>> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] 2012 and still no perfect UK HA light switch
solut=
ion?
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Stuart Billinghurst <
>> stuart@xxxxxxx <mailto:stuart%40billinghursts.com>
 <mailto:st=
uart%40billinghursts.com> > wrote:
>>
>> > Odd question, and humour me... but why do you need 2 way
comms?
>> >
>>
>> So you can tell what state each switch is in even if it has been
locally
>> changed (i.e. you can have a display of the state of all the
lights).
>> LightwaveRF
>> looked promising for a while (inexpensive, nice looking, even if
not zwa=
ve)
>> but failed this.
>>
>> Mark
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