Re: 2012 and still no perfect UK HA light switch solution?

[David Claxton <dave.clax@xxxxxxxxx>]

If you have a system that's reliable all of the time then maybe it
wouldn't=
be needed. Saying that, it would still be particularly useful if you're tu=
rning off/on a light that you might not be able to see at the time
(porch/g=
arden/garage light). Handy to know that your command was received and also
=
worked?

Dave
Sent from my iPad


On 15 Aug 2012, at 00:59, "Stuart Billinghurst"
<stuart@xxxxxxx> =
wrote:

> But to see if a light is on/off you need to look at the very same
control=
ler that you=E2=80=99re going to send the off unless I have missed
somethin=
g? so is status an unnecessary complication, is it just a nice to have but
=
void of function? Saying that my LX does have status feedback, not built
in=
design but because of the way I designed the custom light switches to be c=
ontrolled centrally and not via distribution with homevision but it wouldn=
=E2=80=99t be suitable for retro fit as in the OP=E2=80=99s situation.
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> I guess I=E2=80=99m looking for someone to point out a functional need
fo=
r 2-way comms in LX design that I have missed.
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> Stuart.
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> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of=
David Claxton
> Sent: 15 August 2012 00:46
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: [ukha_d] 2012 and still no perfect UK HA light switch
soluti=
on?
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> Not that your remote would be miles away or anything but if I had the
opt=
ion of getting out of bed to turn off a light that was already off or
seein=
g that the light was already off (thereby staying in bed) I know what I
wou=
ld choose. 80)
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> Isn't the Insteon range supposed to be here very soon? Don't their
produc=
ts have two-way functionality?
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> Sent from my iPad
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> On 14 Aug 2012, at 23:51, "Stuart Billinghurst"
<stuart@xxxxxxx=
<mailto:stuart%40billinghursts.com>
> wrote:
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> > But why is a current state of every light needed in an install
from a
> > function point of view not aesthetic that's a different thing
entirely,
> > because I toyed with this concept for long time as I started to
design =
of my
> > own systems, and came to the conclusion that the only time I
needed to
> > really know the status was if I wanted to act upon it, so I only
need t=
o
> > know a light is on, if for instance I wish to turn it off, but if
I don=
't
> > know it's status and then send an off, I know it's off even if it
was o=
ff
> > before (I hope this makes sense) in which case two way is just an
aesth=
etic
> > consideration, unless I have missed a functional need somewhere?
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> > Stuart.
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> > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
[mailto:=
ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
] On Behalf Of
> > Mark J Cox
> > Sent: 14 August 2012 19:35
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>=20
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] 2012 and still no perfect UK HA light
switch solu=
tion?
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> > On Tue, Aug 14, 2012 at 6:37 PM, Stuart Billinghurst <
> > stuart@xxxxxxx <mailto:stuart%40billinghursts.com>
<mailto:st=
uart%40billinghursts.com> > wrote:
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> > > Odd question, and humour me... but why do you need 2 way
comms?
> > >
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> > So you can tell what state each switch is in even if it has been
locall=
y
> > changed (i.e. you can have a display of the state of all the
lights).
> > LightwaveRF
> > looked promising for a while (inexpensive, nice looking, even if
not zw=
ave)
> > but failed this.
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> > Mark
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