RE: Hi-Def video senders (long post, sorry!)

["Dean Barrett" <dean@xxxxxxxxx>]

I have a pair of Just Add Power HDMI V1 Baluns sat under my desk -
never go=
t
round to trying them out..

Though I do believe the general consensus of JAP V1 that they were not
really good enough for Fluid motion, and I believe many people use them for
Digital signage rather than TV. Version 2 is supposed to be much better,
bu=
t
at an additional cost - you may see these V1's on EBay soon..

I have just obtained a nice shiney pair of HDBaseT baluns that are due for
installation tomorrow in my Bedroom :) - they are replacing an existing
twi=
n
CAT5 unit that works great, but i'm hoping as the HDbaseT units do
bi-directional IR that I might be able to route my Bedroom TV IR back to
th=
e
rack to pickup a GlobalCache i-Tach to enable control of the TV via
Control=
4
without a local controller.

I'll let you know how it turns out, but as mentioned previously they aint
cheap - I think the pair retail should be around =A3350+VAT=20




Dean.

=09=20

-----Original Message-----
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Paul Gordon
Sent: 12 May 2011 14:02
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Hi-Def video senders (long post, sorry!)

That's a lovely solution and a lovely bit of kit, - but it's not so much
"straying" - more a case of "sprinting at full pelt"
into my aforementioned
"=A3stupid money" territory! - currently =A3420 PER END! - so a
single
point-to-point pair would cost me as much as the new amplifier!

I don't mind paying a "sensible" amount, but it's taken several
years (and =
a
fair few new handbags) to get authorisation to buy a new amp, there's no
wa=
y
I could justify spending DOUBLE what I'd said just to get HD 10 metres
away=
!

Looks like this weekend I'll be looking at how I can try to fish a new CAT5
run to where I need it.. - I know it's not going to be easy...

Cheers

Paul G.


-----Original Message-----
From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Tim Hawes
Sent: 12 May 2011 13:30
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Hi-Def video senders (long post, sorry!)

Hi Paul,

Not sure if this is the same thing Neil mentioned but have a look at this:
http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/New-Products/Just-Add-Power-HDMI-over-IP-2G-=
E
uropean-Launch.html

Basically HDMI over IP, so only one Cat5 cable needed.
I thought **everyone** cabled cat5 to their kitchen though...
;-)

HTH,

Tim.

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Paul Gordon
<paul_gordon@xxxxxxx>wrote:

> Hi Peeps, having finally got a nice shiny new TiVo from Virgin, I'm=20
> consequently ditching my (much hated) Sky+HD box, and at the same
time=20
> having to revisit how I distribute the signal from the lounge to
the=20
> kitchen... a number of possible options are on the table and I like to
seek
> the groups collective wisdom & advice...
>
> I have SWMBO approval to purchase a new Home Cinema amp for the=20
> lounge,
and
> I'm looking at the Denon AVR3311... there are a couple of features=20
> that I particularly like on this model, that I think will be very=20
> useful in my quest to finally distribute a "decent" picture
to the=20
> kitchen TV, which is full-HD capable:
> - It has 2 x HDMI outputs, & fully supports using both
concurrently=20
> for separate displays
> - It supports HDMI pass-through whilst in standby (so I don't have
to=20
> have the amp powered on all the time) I need to check on a couple
of=20
> specifics before I purchase: - it also has
a
> set of component outputs, but I need to confirm how that's
implemented=20
> to determine if that's also something I could use to distribute HD
to=20
> a 2nd display (e.g. does that also support pass-through in standby?)
>
> I currently use a set of KAT5 modules to send S-Video from the
SCART=20
> on
the
> Sky box over a single CAT5 to the kitchen. The new TiVo has a SCART=20
> available, but as yet I don't know what signals are available from
it,=20
> so
I
> don't know yet if it outputs S-Video (in which case I _could_ just
continue
> to use the same method).
>
> Since the source & display are both HD capable, & have spare
HDMI=20
> ports, I'd love to use a HDMI signal, but - and this is the bit
where=20
> Mark McCall
will
> no doubt laugh his way out of his undergarments... - all HDMI-CAT5=20
> senders that I'm aware of require TWO CAT5 runs, and I don't
currently=20
> have enough
> CAT5 runs to the location in the kitchen where the TV is
situated...=20
> :-0  (I can hear him chuckling already!)
>
> So as I see it, my choices as far as source signal go are:
> 1:Stick with S-video - issue there is I'm not 100% certain the TiVo=20
> provides it on its SCART 2:Use Component from the new amp - issue=20
> there is I'm not certain it can
be
> used in standby, & I'd prefer not to *have* to leave the amp on
all=20
> the time 3:Use HDMI - Issue here is I don't have 2 x CAT5 runs
between=20
> the TX & RX ends
>
> It's probably not impossible to get a new CAT5 run to the TV
location,=20
> but it's definitely a PITA, & a load of additional work I'd prefer
not=20
> to have to do...
>
> The TiVo source only has a single HDMI, currently connected to the=20
> living room TV. My plan would be to replace the current amp with
the=20
> 3311,
connect
> all HDMI sources directly to that. 1 of the HDMI outputs from the
amp=20
> then goes to the living room TV, leaving a spare HDMI output
available=20
> which carries the same signal as the first one, & thus could be
used=20
> to feed the kitchen. Since both HDMI's (allegedly) passthrough
while=20
> the amp is in standby, I don't have to rely on the amp always being=20
> powered on for the remote TV to get a feed... There is also a=20
> _possibility_ of having a component output available for the same=20
> purpose depending on the
passthough
> operation... (I'm not counting on that though).
>
> So assuming I decide to tap off the 2nd HDMI... - I can either go=20
> wired (but then I'd definitely need to retro-fit another CAT5 run),
or=20
> there are wireless HDMI extenders available... (for a greater cost
of=20
> course). Looks like wired HDMI-CAT5 units can be got from as little
as=20
> =A330-odd at the cheap end, with mid-range units available for well=20
> under a ton... Wireless ones OTOH, look like they only start at
about=20
> =A3180-ish and go all the way up to =A3stupid money....
>
> Wireless would be a *lot* easier to retro-fit, and most also
provide=20
> the return IR signal too.. such as this one:
> http://www.maplin.co.uk/wireless-hdmi-video-sender-kit-503801
- but I=20
> just have an intense aversion to wireless video senders based on
all=20
> my
previous
> experiences of them (i,e, not one has ever worked to my entire=20
> satisfaction).
>
> So, after all that rambling, I'll get to the point of my post, -
which=20
> is to ask specifically if anyone has direct personal experience of
ANY=20
> HDMI
video
> senders, either wired or wireless, and would care to offer=20
> comments/opinions on them to aid my decision making process?... Or,=20
> does anyone already have a Denon 3311 & could answer my
remaining=20
> questions regarding its operation?
>
> And the obvious advice to come out of all this is: RUN MORE CAT5 CABLE
THAN
> YOU THINK YOU'LL EVER NEED!!!! :-)
>
> Cheers.
>
> Paul G.
>
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