RE: Hi-Def video senders (long post, sorry!)

["Neil Ball" <neilball@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

HDMI-over-IP is different to HDBaseT. HDBaseT is a point-to-point
transmission system and does not convert the data to Ethernet for
transmission. See these links for more info:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HDBaseT

http://www.hdbaset.org/

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and here is an example of HDBaseT baluns:

http://www.tmfsolutions.co.uk/Octava_HDCATS100-UK.htm

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I=92ve no connection to The Media Factory other than being a very satisfied
customer J

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Neil B.

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From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf Of
Tim Hawes
Sent: 12 May 2011 13:30
To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Hi-Def video senders (long post, sorry!)

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Hi Paul,

Not sure if this is the same thing Neil mentioned but have a look at this:
http://www.automatedhome.co.uk/New-Products/Just-Add-Power-HDMI-over-IP-2G-=
E
uropean-Launch.html

Basically HDMI over IP, so only one Cat5 cable needed.
I thought **everyone** cabled cat5 to their kitchen though...
;-)

HTH,

Tim.

On Thu, May 12, 2011 at 12:33 PM, Paul Gordon <paul_gordon@xxxxxxx
<mailto:paul_gordon%40hotmail.com>
>wrote:

> Hi Peeps, having finally got a nice shiny new TiVo from Virgin, I'm
> consequently ditching my (much hated) Sky+HD box, and at the same time
> having to revisit how I distribute the signal from the lounge to the
> kitchen... a number of possible options are on the table and I like to
seek
> the groups collective wisdom & advice...
>
> I have SWMBO approval to purchase a new Home Cinema amp for the
lounge,
and
> I'm looking at the Denon AVR3311... there are a couple of features
that I
> particularly like on this model, that I think will be very useful in
my
> quest to finally distribute a "decent" picture to the
kitchen TV, which i=
s
> full-HD capable:
> - It has 2 x HDMI outputs, & fully supports using both
concurrently for
> separate displays
> - It supports HDMI pass-through whilst in standby (so I don't have to
hav=
e
> the amp powered on all the time)
> I need to check on a couple of specifics before I purchase: - it also
has
a
> set of component outputs, but I need to confirm how that's implemented
to
> determine if that's also something I could use to distribute HD to a
2nd
> display (e.g. does that also support pass-through in standby?)
>
> I currently use a set of KAT5 modules to send S-Video from the SCART
on
the
> Sky box over a single CAT5 to the kitchen. The new TiVo has a SCART
> available, but as yet I don't know what signals are available from it,
so
I
> don't know yet if it outputs S-Video (in which case I _could_ just
continue
> to use the same method).
>
> Since the source & display are both HD capable, & have spare
HDMI ports,
> I'd
> love to use a HDMI signal, but - and this is the bit where Mark McCall
will
> no doubt laugh his way out of his undergarments... - all HDMI-CAT5
sender=
s
> that I'm aware of require TWO CAT5 runs, and I don't currently have
enoug=
h
> CAT5 runs to the location in the kitchen where the TV is situated...
:-0
> (I
> can hear him chuckling already!)
>
> So as I see it, my choices as far as source signal go are:
> 1:Stick with S-video - issue there is I'm not 100% certain the TiVo
> provides
> it on its SCART
> 2:Use Component from the new amp - issue there is I'm not certain it
can
be
> used in standby, & I'd prefer not to *have* to leave the amp on
all the
> time
> 3:Use HDMI - Issue here is I don't have 2 x CAT5 runs between the TX
& RX
> ends
>
> It's probably not impossible to get a new CAT5 run to the TV location,
bu=
t
> it's definitely a PITA, & a load of additional work I'd prefer not
to hav=
e
> to do...
>
> The TiVo source only has a single HDMI, currently connected to the
living
> room TV. My plan would be to replace the current amp with the 3311,
connect
> all HDMI sources directly to that. 1 of the HDMI outputs from the amp
the=
n
> goes to the living room TV, leaving a spare HDMI output available
which
> carries the same signal as the first one, & thus could be used to
feed th=
e
> kitchen. Since both HDMI's (allegedly) passthrough while the amp is in
> standby, I don't have to rely on the amp always being powered on for
the
> remote TV to get a feed... There is also a _possibility_ of having a
> component output available for the same purpose depending on the
passthough
> operation... (I'm not counting on that though).
>
> So assuming I decide to tap off the 2nd HDMI... - I can either go
wired
> (but
> then I'd definitely need to retro-fit another CAT5 run), or there are
> wireless HDMI extenders available... (for a greater cost of course).
Look=
s
> like wired HDMI-CAT5 units can be got from as little as =A330-odd at
the
> cheap
> end, with mid-range units available for well under a ton... Wireless
ones
> OTOH, look like they only start at about =A3180-ish and go all the way
up=
to
> =A3stupid money....
>
> Wireless would be a *lot* easier to retro-fit, and most also provide
the
> return IR signal too.. such as this one:
> http://www.maplin.co.uk/wireless-hdmi-video-sender-kit-503801
- but I jus=
t
> have an intense aversion to wireless video senders based on all my
previous
> experiences of them (i,e, not one has ever worked to my entire
> satisfaction).
>
> So, after all that rambling, I'll get to the point of my post, - which
is
> to
> ask specifically if anyone has direct personal experience of ANY HDMI
video
> senders, either wired or wireless, and would care to offer
> comments/opinions
> on them to aid my decision making process?... Or, does anyone already
hav=
e
> a
> Denon 3311 & could answer my remaining questions regarding its
operation?
>
> And the obvious advice to come out of all this is: RUN MORE CAT5 CABLE
THAN
> YOU THINK YOU'LL EVER NEED!!!! :-)
>
> Cheers.
>
> Paul G.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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