Re: [OT] TalkTalk Broadband - WTF?

["Paul" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

LOL. It'll either work great if the wirings good or like a piece of
rubbish if the wiring is iffy



--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Phil Harris" <phil@...> wrote:
>
> Rather like sticking Ethernet data over mains wiring... ;-)
>
> Phil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of Paul
> > Sent: 03 January 2010 23:22
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: [ukha_d] Re: [OT] TalkTalk Broadband - WTF?
> >
> > I'm stuck with ADSL and although our house is only 10 years old
I'm
> > stuck about 1.5 miles from the exchange.
> >
> > The biggest problem with ADSL is that it is using infrastructure
that
> > was never designed to take high bandwidth data. The BT network is
a
> > telephone network, hell in the 70's parts of it were using
aluminium
> > cable rather than copper. Cable was designed to deliver data in
the
> > form of TV which is much more demanding than voice. For those of
us
> > reliant on BT then we'll have to wait for Fibre to the Cabinet
for the
> > next significant leap in performance.
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Phil Harris" <phil@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > IMO I'd rather have a slower service that's a consistent
speed than a
> > fast
> > > service that varies wildly depending on the time of day ...
> > >
> > > My preference is for cable - had a fantastic reliable and
fast
> > connection
> > > with them. ADSL seems a half-baked solution in comparison.
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf
> > > > Of Darren Karp
> > > > Sent: 03 January 2010 21:24
> > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] TalkTalk Broadband - WTF?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks Phil. I should op for their 8 meg service then.
A tad
> > cheaper!
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> > Behalf
> > > > Of
> > > > Phil Harris
> > > > Sent: 03 January 2010 21:06
> > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] TalkTalk Broadband - WTF?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Because the kit is rated to be able to deliver 24mbits
under ideal
> > > > circumstances but they expect that given the physical
distances and
> > the
> > > > cabling in the exchange and to you they expect that you
would get
> > > > 8.8meg ...
> > > > seems pretty logical really.
> > > >
> > > > Bit like buying a pair of 200mbits Devolos which will
get pretty
> > close
> > > > to
> > > > that if they're plugged in side by side in a stripblock
but finding
> > > > that you
> > > > only get 15mbits because you have an RCD breaker
between the
> > locations
> > > > where
> > > > they're plugged in but in your case they're actually
being honest
> > about
> > > > what
> > > > they expect you to get.
> > > >
> > > > Here at home I was on an 8meg service (was paid for by
my employer
> > but
> > > > no
> > > > longer) and we actually got no more than about 1.25meg
but they
> > still
> > > > charged for 8meg - at least these guys appear to be
giving you the
> > > > option of
> > > > only paying for what you're likely to get...
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
]
> > On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > > Of Darren Karp
> > > > > Sent: 03 January 2010 20:36
> > > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] TalkTalk Broadband -
WTF?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Phil,
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Question / comment is, how can they offer up to
24meg but only
> > state
> > > > > they
> > > > > can deliver up to 8.8meg being 0.4 miles from the
exchange?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Darren
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
]
> > On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > > Of
> > > > > Phil Harris
> > > > > Sent: 03 January 2010 20:06
> > > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] TalkTalk Broadband -
WTF?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Erm - what's your actual question?
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
] On
> > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > Of darren_karp2001
> > > > > > Sent: 03 January 2010 19:23
> > > > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > Subject: [ukha_d] [OT] TalkTalk Broadband -
WTF?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thinking about moving my broadband and phone
over to talktalk
> > but
> > > > > > spotted this on their sign up legal BS thing,
I was interested
> > in
> > > > > their
> > > > > > pro 24mb service.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Broadband speed:
> > > > > > We have estimated your broadband speed based
upon your actual
> > > > > distance
> > > > > > from the telephone exchange to which your
line is connected. We
> > use
> > > > > > information we already have on other active
lines of a similar
> > > > > distance
> > > > > > to make this estimation. When you are live
with TalkTalk we
> > provide
> > > > > you
> > > > > > with a speed test service on our website so
you can check your
> > > > actual
> > > > > > throughput (speed). You should always use a
number of tests to
> > > > gauge
> > > > > > your actual speed as number of factors can
effect the result,
> > > > > typically
> > > > > > these can commonly be:
> > > > > > The time of day you are online and the number
of other users
> > online
> > > > > at
> > > > > > the same time
> > > > > > The website you are visiting
> > > > > > Internal wiring in your home especially if
your modem is not
> > > > > connected
> > > > > > to the Primary telephone socket.
> > > > > > What does our Turbo Boost do?
> > > > > > Where the telephone line supports Broadband
download speeds in
> > > > excess
> > > > > > of 8 Meg, we will offer you a Turbo Boost.
This boost enables
> > the
> > > > > line
> > > > > > to run at the maximum uncapped download speed
your line can
> > > > support.
> > > > > We
> > > > > > will quote this speed to you when we check
your line.If you
> > choose
> > > > > not
> > > > > > to take the boost, we will place a cap on
your line holding the
> > > > speed
> > > > > > at a maximum of 8Mbs, your actual speed can
also be effected by
> > > > other
> > > > > > factors as listed above and you can test your
speed at any time
> > on
> > > > > our
> > > > > > website.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyone have some comments?
> > > > > > Darren
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
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