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RE: Re: [OT] TalkTalk Broadband - WTF?



Rather like sticking Ethernet data over mains wiring... ;-)

Phil

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Paul
> Sent: 03 January 2010 23:22
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: [ukha_d] Re: [OT] TalkTalk Broadband - WTF?
>
> I'm stuck with ADSL and although our house is only 10 years old I'm
> stuck about 1.5 miles from the exchange.
>
> The biggest problem with ADSL is that it is using infrastructure that
> was never designed to take high bandwidth data. The BT network is a
> telephone network, hell in the 70's parts of it were using aluminium
> cable rather than copper. Cable was designed to deliver data in the
> form of TV which is much more demanding than voice. For those of us
> reliant on BT then we'll have to wait for Fibre to the Cabinet for the
> next significant leap in performance.
>
> Paul
>
> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Phil Harris" <phil@...> wrote:
> >
> > IMO I'd rather have a slower service that's a consistent speed
than a
> fast
> > service that varies wildly depending on the time of day ...
> >
> > My preference is for cable - had a fantastic reliable and fast
> connection
> > with them. ADSL seems a half-baked solution in comparison.
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> > > Of Darren Karp
> > > Sent: 03 January 2010 21:24
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] TalkTalk Broadband - WTF?
> > >
> > > Thanks Phil. I should op for their 8 meg service then. A tad
> cheaper!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> > > Of
> > > Phil Harris
> > > Sent: 03 January 2010 21:06
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] TalkTalk Broadband - WTF?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Because the kit is rated to be able to deliver 24mbits under
ideal
> > > circumstances but they expect that given the physical
distances and
> the
> > > cabling in the exchange and to you they expect that you
would get
> > > 8.8meg ...
> > > seems pretty logical really.
> > >
> > > Bit like buying a pair of 200mbits Devolos which will get
pretty
> close
> > > to
> > > that if they're plugged in side by side in a stripblock but
finding
> > > that you
> > > only get 15mbits because you have an RCD breaker between the
> locations
> > > where
> > > they're plugged in but in your case they're actually being
honest
> about
> > > what
> > > they expect you to get.
> > >
> > > Here at home I was on an 8meg service (was paid for by my
employer
> but
> > > no
> > > longer) and we actually got no more than about 1.25meg but
they
> still
> > > charged for 8meg - at least these guys appear to be giving
you the
> > > option of
> > > only paying for what you're likely to get...
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
]
> On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of Darren Karp
> > > > Sent: 03 January 2010 20:36
> > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] TalkTalk Broadband - WTF?
> > > >
> > > > Hi Phil,
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Question / comment is, how can they offer up to 24meg
but only
> state
> > > > they
> > > > can deliver up to 8.8meg being 0.4 miles from the
exchange?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Darren
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
]
> On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of
> > > > Phil Harris
> > > > Sent: 03 January 2010 20:06
> > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] TalkTalk Broadband - WTF?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Erm - what's your actual question?
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
] On
> > > > Behalf
> > > > > Of darren_karp2001
> > > > > Sent: 03 January 2010 19:23
> > > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > Subject: [ukha_d] [OT] TalkTalk Broadband - WTF?
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > >
> > > > > Thinking about moving my broadband and phone over
to talktalk
> but
> > > > > spotted this on their sign up legal BS thing, I
was interested
> in
> > > > their
> > > > > pro 24mb service.
> > > > >
> > > > > Broadband speed:
> > > > > We have estimated your broadband speed based upon
your actual
> > > > distance
> > > > > from the telephone exchange to which your line is
connected. We
> use
> > > > > information we already have on other active lines
of a similar
> > > > distance
> > > > > to make this estimation. When you are live with
TalkTalk we
> provide
> > > > you
> > > > > with a speed test service on our website so you
can check your
> > > actual
> > > > > throughput (speed). You should always use a number
of tests to
> > > gauge
> > > > > your actual speed as number of factors can effect
the result,
> > > > typically
> > > > > these can commonly be:
> > > > > The time of day you are online and the number of
other users
> online
> > > > at
> > > > > the same time
> > > > > The website you are visiting
> > > > > Internal wiring in your home especially if your
modem is not
> > > > connected
> > > > > to the Primary telephone socket.
> > > > > What does our Turbo Boost do?
> > > > > Where the telephone line supports Broadband
download speeds in
> > > excess
> > > > > of 8 Meg, we will offer you a Turbo Boost. This
boost enables
> the
> > > > line
> > > > > to run at the maximum uncapped download speed your
line can
> > > support.
> > > > We
> > > > > will quote this speed to you when we check your
line.If you
> choose
> > > > not
> > > > > to take the boost, we will place a cap on your
line holding the
> > > speed
> > > > > at a maximum of 8Mbs, your actual speed can also
be effected by
> > > other
> > > > > factors as listed above and you can test your
speed at any time
> on
> > > > our
> > > > > website.
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone have some comments?
> > > > > Darren
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
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>
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