Re: [OT] TalkTalk Broadband - WTF?

["Paul" <paul@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

I'm stuck with ADSL and although our house is only 10 years old I'm
stuck about 1.5 miles from the exchange.

The biggest problem with ADSL is that it is using infrastructure that was
never designed to take high bandwidth data. The BT network is a telephone
network, hell in the 70's parts of it were using aluminium cable rather
than copper. Cable was designed to deliver data in the form of TV which is
much more demanding than voice. For those of us reliant on BT then we'll
have to wait for Fibre to the Cabinet for the next significant leap in
performance.

Paul

--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Phil Harris" <phil@...> wrote:
>
> IMO I'd rather have a slower service that's a consistent speed than a
fast
> service that varies wildly depending on the time of day ...
>
> My preference is for cable - had a fantastic reliable and fast
connection
> with them. ADSL seems a half-baked solution in comparison.
>
> Phil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of Darren Karp
> > Sent: 03 January 2010 21:24
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] TalkTalk Broadband - WTF?
> >
> > Thanks Phil. I should op for their 8 meg service then. A tad
cheaper!
> >
> >
> >
> > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> > Of
> > Phil Harris
> > Sent: 03 January 2010 21:06
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] TalkTalk Broadband - WTF?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Because the kit is rated to be able to deliver 24mbits under
ideal
> > circumstances but they expect that given the physical distances
and the
> > cabling in the exchange and to you they expect that you would get
> > 8.8meg ...
> > seems pretty logical really.
> >
> > Bit like buying a pair of 200mbits Devolos which will get pretty
close
> > to
> > that if they're plugged in side by side in a stripblock but
finding
> > that you
> > only get 15mbits because you have an RCD breaker between the
locations
> > where
> > they're plugged in but in your case they're actually being honest
about
> > what
> > they expect you to get.
> >
> > Here at home I was on an 8meg service (was paid for by my
employer but
> > no
> > longer) and we actually got no more than about 1.25meg but they
still
> > charged for 8meg - at least these guys appear to be giving you
the
> > option of
> > only paying for what you're likely to get...
> >
> > Phil
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of Darren Karp
> > > Sent: 03 January 2010 20:36
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] TalkTalk Broadband - WTF?
> > >
> > > Hi Phil,
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Question / comment is, how can they offer up to 24meg but
only state
> > > they
> > > can deliver up to 8.8meg being 0.4 miles from the exchange?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Darren
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
] On
> > Behalf
> > > Of
> > > Phil Harris
> > > Sent: 03 January 2010 20:06
> > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > Subject: RE: [ukha_d] [OT] TalkTalk Broadband - WTF?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Erm - what's your actual question?
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
] On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of darren_karp2001
> > > > Sent: 03 January 2010 19:23
> > > > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > Subject: [ukha_d] [OT] TalkTalk Broadband - WTF?
> > > >
> > > > Hi all,
> > > >
> > > > Thinking about moving my broadband and phone over to
talktalk but
> > > > spotted this on their sign up legal BS thing, I was
interested in
> > > their
> > > > pro 24mb service.
> > > >
> > > > Broadband speed:
> > > > We have estimated your broadband speed based upon your
actual
> > > distance
> > > > from the telephone exchange to which your line is
connected. We use
> > > > information we already have on other active lines of a
similar
> > > distance
> > > > to make this estimation. When you are live with
TalkTalk we provide
> > > you
> > > > with a speed test service on our website so you can
check your
> > actual
> > > > throughput (speed). You should always use a number of
tests to
> > gauge
> > > > your actual speed as number of factors can effect the
result,
> > > typically
> > > > these can commonly be:
> > > > The time of day you are online and the number of other
users online
> > > at
> > > > the same time
> > > > The website you are visiting
> > > > Internal wiring in your home especially if your modem
is not
> > > connected
> > > > to the Primary telephone socket.
> > > > What does our Turbo Boost do?
> > > > Where the telephone line supports Broadband download
speeds in
> > excess
> > > > of 8 Meg, we will offer you a Turbo Boost. This boost
enables the
> > > line
> > > > to run at the maximum uncapped download speed your line
can
> > support.
> > > We
> > > > will quote this speed to you when we check your line.If
you choose
> > > not
> > > > to take the boost, we will place a cap on your line
holding the
> > speed
> > > > at a maximum of 8Mbs, your actual speed can also be
effected by
> > other
> > > > factors as listed above and you can test your speed at
any time on
> > > our
> > > > website.
> > > >
> > > > Anyone have some comments?
> > > > Darren
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
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