Re: Re: [OT] Mac Vs Window (was [OT] 'kin Windows!)

[Andy Powell <ukha@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

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On 9 Jul 2009, at 19:38, Juan wrote:

> What are the steps to install OS X in a PC.  I have a MacBook and a HP
> desktop, would like the HP to run OS instead Vista :-)
>
> Juan
> www.jajudevelopment.com
>
>
> On Jul 9, 2009, at 2:17 PM, Andy Powell <ukha@xxxxxxx> wrote:
>
>>
>> I run OS X on an Acer Aspire 3690 - that's a Celeron M!! It's also
a
>> sub =A3300 machine.  Everything bar the card reader and camera
work
>> perfectly (both use some weird chipset that's only supported under
>> winders). I used to dual boot Linux/OSX but have moved to just OS
X.
>> I've been doing this for a long time and it's my 'everyday'
machine
>> not just some thing I play with every now and then.
>>
>> I'll admit, once we've got the new house I *will* be getting a
real
>> macbook.
>>
>> There are some annoyances though. The target market doesn't really
>> seem to be techies and often it can be frustrating trying to find
the
>> real detail of what's going on.  One of the things I still haven't
>> found is a keyboard shortcut for things like OK and Cancel
buttons,
>> you can't use the arrow keys to select the 'active' button and
then
>> hit return - There probably is some short cut, but I haven't found
it
>> and it hasn't been that intuitive.
>>
>> The additional applications, (other than iphoto, mail and
ical),=20=20
>> don't
>> really interest me. I don't see them as extra value - I don't use
>> them.
>>
>> The trouble is Apple suck you in slowly then one day you find
you're
>> locked in to their way of doing things. It's a slippery slope
-=20=20
>> iPhone
>> and macbook are just the start...
>>
>>
>> Andy
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 6 Jul 2009, at 21:52, Paul Bendall wrote:
>>
>>> Okay but what does that have to do with the OS? Your list is
>>> applications.
>>>
>>> Before I get flamed in return I have spent the last ten years
or so
>>> in IT. I started off with working with Macs and PCs, overall
the
>>> Macs were better. You could link a Macbook to a Mac and see
data
>>> without any effort, you could hold the shift and boot without
>>> extensions, you could boot from the OS CD to resolve problems.
>>> However, downside was memory managment was awful, you had to
find a
>>> specific CD for both the OS and hardware for it to work.
>>>
>>> I'd go back to an Apple today but I am forced to buy
over-priced
>>> hardware. I can't virtualise the OS to try before I buy. The
>>> experience with the my iPod Touch 1st Generation being
"forced" to
>>> use iTunes and only allowed to use software Apple agree with
is
>>> incredibly draconian in my view.
>>>
>>> Windows biggest success is also its biggest failure, the shear
>>> diversity of the the applications and hardware is both both a
>>> benefit and failure.
>>>
>>> To me no-one OS ticks all the boxes and I guess that is why we
argue
>>> over which we consider better than the other. I run mainly
Windows
>>> OS but that is my job, I have Linux distros installed on
VMWare so I
>>> can play and try them out as well as a NAS. I'd run MacOS but
Apple
>>> have decided I am not allowed.
>>>
>>> Paul
>>>
>>> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, Jamie Bennett <jamie.bennett@...>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 6 Jul 2009, at 19:28, Paul Bendall wrote:
>>>>> Apple has it relatively easy they control the hardware
and boy do
>>>>> you pay for it.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> For me that is a misconception that a lot share. Lets get
this
>>>> straight up front, I'm a Linux guy (as can be seen from my
website
>>>> and
>>>> own company - http://www.linuxuk.org) and I'm pretty
technical
>>>> (I'm a
>>>> Senior Software Developer) but I got a Mac a few months
back and it
>>>> has been the best purchase I ever made.
>>>>
>>>> I went for the new 24" iMac (got it on day of
release) and I love
>>>> it.
>>>> Yes it cost around =A31200 but for that I not only got a
24" all i
>>>> n one
>>>> computer with a reasonable spec, I also got a lot of top
quality
>>>> software in the form of iLife among other things. Yes its
not cheap
>>>> but you do get what you pay for in my experience.
>>>>
>>>> I have five computers around the house, two desktops, one
with
>>>> Linux,
>>>> one with Vista, a Viglen MPC-L server running Linux, a
laptop
>>>> running
>>>> Linux and an iMac. The Mac is by far the nicest to use,
the easiest
>>>> to
>>>> use and the one that I couldn't do without. Everything
from using
>>>> iMovie for my home video editing, Kinemac for animating,
XCode for
>>>> development, iCal and Mail and everything in between has
'just
>>>> worked'. I would gladly pay the bit extra for the time and
effort=20=20
>>>> it
>>>> has saved me (and this comes from the former lead
developer on a
>>>> tool
>>>> to build whole Linux distributions using just XML profiles
so I'm
>>>> not
>>>> adverse to a bit of effort- http://www.linuxfromscratch.org).
>>>>
>>>> So would I buy anything other than a Mac for my main
machine again,
>>>> NO!
>>>>
>>>> (let the flaming begin).
>>>>> Paul
>>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> Jamie.
>>>> --
>>>> http://www.linuxuk.org
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
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