Re: Do good energy-saving bulbs exist?

["Raymond Kelly" <raymondtkelly@xxxxxxxxx>]

I can only echo what Peter has said in that the technology just is not
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e
yet. Its very frustrating as we all want to use efficient bulbs but what is
out there - CFLs poor light quality, slow to start poor dimmibility and low
output plus expensive. Then there's LED's - the future but again poor
outpu=
t
very expensive and mostly not dimmable at all.
I have tried LED's type Cree and Luxeon, but they are very expensive and
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t
practical in a whole house.
To be honest when they come out with dimmable, high output good quality
light LED's at a good price that can fit in existing MR16 or GU10 fittings
someone will make a killing.

2009/1/11 Peter and Jane <pandj.munnoch@xxxxxxx>

>   Hi Mal
> You ain't seen nothin' until you try a B+Q dimmable cfl.
> I have installed a Lutron scene setting lighting system in our new
build.
> Dining area light is an incandescent bulb. I dutifully replaced it
with t=
he
> B+Q offering (=A310 for 1 bulb!). As the Lutron ramped up the bulb
lurche=
d
> into a sort of knackered fluorescent mode with standing wave patterns
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the
> tube, and as further light was demanded, it flashed through a sickly
seri=
es
> of pale shimmering states until it arrived at a ghostly white pale
glow t=
hat
> took minutes to build.
> How am I saving the planet with this expensive mercury containing heap
of
> junk? This house is as environmentally conscious as I could afford
(heat
> pump, heat recovery ventilation, rainwater harvesting, high level of
> recycled newsprint insulation etc etc.) but these low energy lamps are
> ridiculous. I have lots of cfls and lots of leds (in both cases
because y=
ou
> need several to replace the light output of one proper lamp). It is
reall=
y
> not right to discontinue the old technology before the replacement
> technology is ready.
> I too would appreciate any leads to decent, cost effective low energy
> lamps, including dimmable leds and instant cfls that don't cost more
to b=
uy
> than they will ever save in energy consumption!
> Rgds
> Peter
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mal Lansell
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 11, 2009 10:40 AM
> Subject: [ukha_d] Do good energy-saving bulbs exist?
>
> A bulb blew yesterday, and after treking round the town I found that
> no-one is selling 100W bulbs anymore. I knew they were going to be
> banned, but I didn't think they would disappear this soon!
>
> I tried a Phillips energy-saving "equivalent", but it was so
dim as to
> be hardly worth switching on (maybe thats how they save energy). I
> don't understand why companies lie about how bright their lamps are -
> all it does is make everyone think the products are crap.
>
> Before I place an order online for a giant box of traditional bulbs,
> does anyone know of a brand of energy-saving bulb that do actually
live
> up to their brightness claims, and that produce a pleasant colour
light
> rather than some cold grey glow?
>
> Thanks
>
> Mal
>
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