Re: Home Automation Integration and touchscreen front end

["Ben McCormack" <yahoogroup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Perfect - Thats confirms exactly what I saw last night.

Are you able to reconnect homeseer and Comfort without restarting homeseer?

Ben

--- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Nigel Giddings" <nigel@...> wrote:
>
> Ben, Paul,
>
>
>
> I use the Ethernet UCM to connect Homeseer to Comfort. I agree that
only
> one connection can occur at any one time. I leave Homeseer connected
> normally and only disconnect when I want to connect with Comfigurator.
I
> did forget to reconnect a couple of times so set up a recurring event
in
> Homeseer to remind me to reconnect it to comfort if it is left
> disconnected for 5 minutes or more...
>
>
>
> Nigel
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Paul Gordon
> Sent: 06 January 2009 22:14
> To: UKHA Group
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: Home Automation Integration and touchscreen
> front end
>
>
>
> I suspect not, - I think the UCM communication protocol only support
> single-user operation... I'm not 100% sure with the ethernet ones
though
> - but aren't they a normal UCM with an extra ethernet daughterboard
> mounted on top? - With a serial connection there's no problem - which
> ever app starts up first get the COM port assigned to it, the
connection
> is permanent, and it prevents any other app from accessing it.. - I
> could envisage that a network connection might well be more prone to
> dropping & re-establishing the connection though, depending on
what
> protocol is being used, and whether it is a connectionless or a
> connection-oriented protocol.... - getting a bit beyond my experience
> here though.... - probably one for the Comfort forums...
>
> HTH
>
> Paul G.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
] On
> Behalf
> > Of Ben McCormack
> > Sent: 06 January 2009 22:07
> > To: UKHA Group
> > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re: Home Automation Integration and
touchscreen
> > front end
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > Thats exactly what I am thinking. I am not sure the Ethernet UCM
can
> > multitask/thread.
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6 Jan 2009, at 22:02, Paul Gordon wrote:
> >
> > > I noticed you said you're using an ethernet UCM, - I don't
have one
> > of
> > > those myself, but my first thought is does that support
multiple
> > > client
> > > connections? - I know with the serial UCM's only 1
application can
> > use
> > > it at a time, so in the early days when I only had 1 UCM, if
> > > Homeseer &
> > > the Comfort plugin was running, then Comfigurator could not
> > > upload/download to or from Comfort because the COM port was
in
> > > use... -
> > > perhaps you are seeing issues similar to this? - I guess you
could
> > > test
> > > this by shutting down all the other applications that
connect to
> > > Comfort
> > > and run only Homeseer & the plugin for a while & see
if your
> > > disconnection problems go away...
> > >
> > > I now have several separate serial UCMs dedicated to each
> > application,
> > > and I never (touch wood) suffer disconnections between
Comfort &
> > > homeseer..
> > >
> > > Paul G.
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
] On
> > > Behalf
> > > > Of Ben McCormack
> > > > Sent: 06 January 2009 21:55
> > > > To: UKHA Group
> > > > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re: Home Automation Integration
and
> > > touchscreen
> > > > front end
> > > >
> > > > Right
> > > >
> > > > I have just ben into the loft to test everything.
> > > >
> > > > I am now getting the realtime responses in homeseer to
the changes
> > > in
> > > > zone state within Comfort.
> > > >
> > > > Now I am currently running homeseer, Comfigurator,
Wizcomfort all
> > on
> > > > the same machine. I have setup a dedicated homeseer
user with
> > > Comfort.
> > > >
> > > > The problem I am finding is that homeseer looses
connection to
> > > Comfort
> > > > and I need to restart homeseer for it to pick up the
connection
> > > again.
> > > >
> > > > Now this could be something to do with the other
utilities I am
> > > > running on the server. I also remember something about
timeouts so
> > I
> > > > need to check that all tomorrow night.
> > > >
> > > > Paul - Thanks for the detailed info on
Comfort/Homeseer. I will
> > > have a
> > > > play tomorrow
> > > >
> > > > Ben
> > > >
> > > > On 6 Jan 2009, at 21:45, Paul Gordon wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > The CBUS functionality is fairly
straightforward... you should
> > now
> > > > > have
> > > > > a number of Homeseer devices called czCounter:nnn
- 1 for each
> > > > Comfort
> > > > > counter you specified, - so probably 256 in
total...
> > > > >
> > > > > Each of those will automatically map to the
corresponding CBUS
> > > group
> > > > > number, - this is taken care of by the CBUS UCM,
you don't need
> > to
> > > do
> > > > > anything in Homeseer. So CBUS group address 005
will map onto
> > > Comfort
> > > > > counter 5; any change to the value of CBUS group 5
will (via the
> > > CBUS
> > > > > UCM) automatically set the Comfort counter 5 to
the same value,
> > > and
> > > > > this
> > > > > will then be reflected in the Homeseer device
czCounter:005. If
> > > you
> > > > > turn
> > > > > CBUS group 5 on, you should see the Homeseer
device
> czCounter:005
> > > > > change
> > > > > value to 255, turn it off, you should see it in
Homeseer change
> > > the
> > > > > device value to 0. You can use these devicevalue
changes as
> > > triggers
> > > > > to
> > > > > Homeseer events.
> > > > >
> > > > > Note that although it might seem
counter-intuitive, the reverse
> > > > > operation does NOT work. - i.e. changing a comfort
counter value
> > > > > (either
> > > > > in Homeseer, or directly in Comfort) does NOT
change the
> > > > corresponding
> > > > > CBUS group address to the same value. - This is
because of how
> > the
> > > > > CBUS
> > > > > UCM works, not anything to do with the plugin or
with Homeseer.
> -
> > > > > Basically, Comfort only *tracks* the CBUS group
addresses with
> > its
> > > > > counters, it does not allow you to control CBUS
groups via its
> > > > > counters.
> > > > > Instead there is a specific action in Comfort (197
I think, but
> > > it's
> > > > > obvious if you use Comfigurator). You must call
that comfort
> > > action
> > > > > with
> > > > > various parameters to send commands out onto the
CBUS from
> > > Comfort.
> > > -
> > > > > Again, you can do this from Homeseer via the
plugin, because one
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > actions made available to Homeseer through the
plugin allows you
> > > to
> > > > > run
> > > > > any Comfort response.
> > > > >
> > > > > HTH
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul G.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
]
> On
> > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > Of Ben McCormack
> > > > > > Sent: 06 January 2009 20:52
> > > > > > To: UKHA Group
> > > > > > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re: Home Automation
Integration and
> > > > > touchscreen
> > > > > > front end
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thats the create button I had missed. The
plugin has been
> > > enabled.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I need to check the status reporting is
working and then
> > > understand
> > > > > > how to get cbus working through homeseer
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ben
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 6 Jan 2009, at 20:46, Paul Gordon wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > From what I recall, the option to read
the devices into the
> > > > plugin
> > > > > > > from
> > > > > > > the CCL file does little more than read
the number of
> inputs,
> > > > > > outputs,
> > > > > > > RIO zones, and counters from the CCL
file to populate the
> > > correct
> > > > > > > numbers in the boxes on the plugin
config form. I think you
> > > > > *still*
> > > > > > > then
> > > > > > > have to press the "Create"
button to have the plugin
> actually
> > > > > create
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > numbers of devices specifed...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Once that's done, you still have to
modify many / most of
> the
> > > > > > > devices it
> > > > > > > creates to customise them for your
environment, since the
> > > devices
> > > > > all
> > > > > > > get created with generic names like
"IzZone 1" and so on. -
> > > Not
> > > > > sure
> > > > > > > if
> > > > > > > this still applies if you use the CCL
file method, as the
> > > names
> > > > > you
> > > > > > > have
> > > > > > > given to the zones in Comfort should be
available in the
> > > CCL, so
> > > > > > maybe
> > > > > > > it's smart enough to read zone names as
well..
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I presume you've already configured the
connection to the
> > UCM,
> > > > and
> > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > this is working, - since you said you've
seen it report the
> > > > > comfort
> > > > > &
> > > > > > > UCM Version details, this must be OK...
You also have to set
> > > the
> > > > > > > plugin
> > > > > > > status to enabled in the Homeseer
interfaces configuration
> if
> > > you
> > > > > > > haven't done that already...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Once all this is done, you should have
real-time logging in
> > > the
> > > > > > > Homeseer
> > > > > > > log of any changes to comfort zones, so
if you go & jump
> > > around
> > > > in
> > > > > > > front
> > > > > > > of a PIR, you should see that logged
virtually
> > instantaneously
> > > in
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > Homeseer log...
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > HTH
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Paul G
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
]
> > > On
> > > > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > > > Of Ben McCormack
> > > > > > > > Sent: 06 January 2009 20:22
> > > > > > > > To: UKHA Group
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re: Home
Automation Integration and
> > > > > > > touchscreen
> > > > > > > > front end
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Paul
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thought I had got something wrong.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > There is a step where you use the
plugin to 'read' your
> > > comfort
> > > > > > > file.
> > > > > > > > This then creates the devices. But
I dont seem to be able
> > to
> > > > > find
> > > > > > > any
> > > > > > > > of these devices. I will recheck.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ben
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On 6 Jan 2009, at 20:17, Paul
Gordon wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Hi Ben,
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yes, I'm afraid you must have
got it totally wrong!...
> :-
> > 0
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > It's been a while since I
installed the plugin, so my
> > > memory
> > > > > of
> > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > exact process is a little bit
vague, but you have to go
> > > > > through
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > setup steps to create devices
in Homeseer to represent
> > all
> > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > Comfort
> > > > > > > > > devices (inputs, outputs,
counters, etc.) - You should
> > end
> > > up
> > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > *hundreds* of Homeseer devices
for comfort. - Have you
> > > done
> > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > setup &
> > > > > > > > > got all those devices?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Paul G.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > -----Original
Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
]
> > > > > On
> > > > > > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > > > > > Of Ben McCormack
> > > > > > > > > > Sent: 06 January 2009
18:54
> > > > > > > > > > To: UKHA Group
> > > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [ukha_d] Re:
Home Automation Integration
> > > and
> > > > > > > > > touchscreen
> > > > > > > > > > front end
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > OK
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I have now spent as
couple of evenings trying to get
> > > > > homeseer
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > Comfort to do something
slightly useful and I am
> > getting
> > > no
> > > > > > > where.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I have installed Homeseer
and the Comfort plugin.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I get the homeseer to
query Comfort and retrieve the
> > > > version
> > > > > > > > > > information but not much
else.
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Maybe I have got it all
wrong but I was expecting to
> be
> > > > able
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > see
> > > > > > > > > > 'real time' zone status
etc. Have I got it totally
> > > wrong?
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Ben
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > On 5 Jan 2009, at 14:34,
Gareth Cook wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > I'm the opposite -
and the support for the plugin is
> > ,
> > > > > well,
> > > > > > > p155
> > > > > > > > > > > poor.
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Paul - time to
re-invent your modified plugin ? :-)
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Yup. that's the one.
I've found it to be extremely
> > > > > relaible
> > > > > > > > (touch
> > > > > > > > > > > wood).
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Paul G
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > >
________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
 on behalf of Ben
> > > McCormack
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Mon 05/01/2009
13:31
> > > > > > > > > > > To: UKHA Group
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [ukha_d]
Re: Home Automation Integration
> and
> > > > > > > touchscreen
> > > > > > > > > > > front
> > > > > > > > > > > end
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > Guys - Are you using
the pjcComfort2 plugin to
> > connect
> > > > > > Comfort
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > homeseer?
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In
ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
, "Paul Gordon"
> > > <paul@>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Indeed,
Gareth's experience does generally differ
> > > from
> > > > > my
> > > > > > > own,
> > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > I've
> > > > > > > > > > > > always
attributed that to the fact that Gareth
> > > > generally
> > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > "pushing the
> > > > > > > > > > > > envelope"
rather further than I do...
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > :-)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Paul G.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original
Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > From:
ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
]
> > > > > > > On
> > > > > > > > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > > > > > > > Of Gareth Cook
> > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: 04
January 2009 19:21
> > > > > > > > > > > > To: UKHA Group
> > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Fw:
[ukha_d] Home Automation Integration
> > > and
> > > > > > > > > touchscreen
> > > > > > > > > > > front
> > > > > > > > > > > > end
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Paul and myself
chat often as we have almost the
> > > same
> > > > > > > > > installation
> > > > > > > > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > > Comfort, CBUS,
Homeseer, and Sonos.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I would like to
say that the PC component is as
> > > flakey
> > > > > as
> > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > box of
> > > > > > > > > > > > cornflakes -
always has been and I've been running
> > > > > Homeseer
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > several
> > > > > > > > > > > > years.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > The Comfort
plugin is ok, but has a temper now and
> > > > > again -
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > Sonos
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > plugin is not
stable at all. If you dont mind
> > > checking
> > > > > your
> > > > > > > > > system
> > > > > > > > > > > every
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > now and again,
you'll be fine. I too, like Paul,
> > > have
> > > > > CBUS
> > > > > > > > > buttons
> > > > > > > > > > > > activating
Sonos stuff and the like - and we have
> > to
> > > > use
> > > > > > > > > Homeseer
> > > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > > > that's the only
route between Sonos and Comfort -
> > > but
> > > > > it's
> > > > > > > > often
> > > > > > > > > > not
> > > > > > > > > > > > functioning
because one of the 2 plugins has died
> > on
> > > > its
> > > > > > > arse.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I plan to
reinstall (for the umpteen time) and try
> > > to
> > > > > keep
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > stable
> > > > > > > > > > > > revision of
everything (ie one but last of the
> > > Comfort
> > > > > > > plugin)
> > > > > > > > > but
> > > > > > > > > > > both
> > > > > > > > > > > > plugins really
requires some extensive QA work -
> > > > > stability
> > > > > > > is
> > > > > > > > > > > severely
> > > > > > > > > > > > lacking. Even
Comfort has it's moments, but CBUS
> > has
> > > > > never
> > > > > > > ever
> > > > > > > > > > gone
> > > > > > > > > > > > wrong.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > G.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Ben,
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I agree with
pretty much all those choices, with
> > the
> > > > > > > exception
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > > Smartfit... -
the good thing about it is there is
> a
> > > > > > > dedicated
> > > > > > > > > UCM
> > > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > integrate
smartfit & comfort, but the downside is
> > > that
> > > > > > > > > smartfit is
> > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > pretty dumb
system, and is only suitable for
> > certain
> > > > > > Central
> > > > > > > > > > Heating
> > > > > > > > > > > > designs. The
newer Hometronic system is far better
> > > in
> > > > > most
> > > > > > > > > > respects,
> > > > > > > > > > > > although there
isn't a dedicated UCM for it
> > > > > unfortunately.
> > > > > > I
> > > > > > > > > > believe
> > > > > > > > > > > > Cytech were
(are?) attempting to make an
> > arrangement
> > > > > with
> > > > > > > > > > > Honeywell with
> > > > > > > > > > > > a view to
developing a Hometronic UCM, but I've
> > > heard
> > > > > > > nothing
> > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > this
> > > > > > > > > > > > for the last 2
years or so, so I guess that idea
> > > never
> > > > > got
> > > > > > > off
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > ground (shame).
Hometronic is, as you've noticed,
> > > > > > > significantly
> > > > > > > > > > more
> > > > > > > > > > > > expensive,
especially if you have lots of
> radiators
> > > all
> > > > > > > needing
> > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > hometronic
control valves on them, although I
> guess
> > > you
> > > > > > > *could*
> > > > > > > > > > > > implement it in
phases to reduce the initial
> > impact.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > In case you
hadn't sussed, it *is* actually
> > possible
> > > to
> > > > > > > > > implement
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > degree of
integration between Hometronic &
> Comfort,
> > > > > using
> > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hometronic
modules that provide digital input/
> > > outputs
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > then be
> > > > > > > > > > > > connected to
Comfort outputs/inputs to signal
> > > discrete
> > > > > > > states,
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > enable Comfort
to control Hometronic (i.e comfort
> > > could
> > > > > > > have a
> > > > > > > > > > > number of
> > > > > > > > > > > > outputs
connected to Hometronic, each signal line
> > > could
> > > > > > then
> > > > > > > be
> > > > > > > > > > > > programmed in
Hometronic to set a particular
> > > > "lifestyle"
> > > > > so
> > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > > instance
> > > > > > > > > > > > Comfort would
be able to turn off all heating when
> > > set
> > > > > to
> > > > > > > away
> > > > > > > > > > > mode...)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > I already have
almost all the components of the
> > > system
> > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > you've
> > > > > > > > > > > > specified
(Comfort, CBUS, SONOS, Homeseer) and I
> > > > > actually
> > > > > > > > > settled
> > > > > > > > > > on
> > > > > > > > > > > > Hometronic for
my heating as well, and even went
> as
> > > > > far as
> > > > > > > > > getting
> > > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > quote for a
system. Unforseen circumstances have
> > > > > repeatedly
> > > > > > > > > forced
> > > > > > > > > > > me to
> > > > > > > > > > > > put it on hold
unfortunately, so I still haven't
> > got
> > > > > round
> > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > purchasing
> > > > > > > > > > > > it, although I
do still intend to when
> > circumstances
> > > > > allow.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > If you haven't
already experimented with Homeseer,
> > > its
> > > > > > worth
> > > > > > > > > > > pointing
> > > > > > > > > > > > out that there
is just about to be a new component
> > > > > launched
> > > > > > > > > for it
> > > > > > > > > > > which
> > > > > > > > > > > > is specifically
designed for easy implementation
> of
> > > > > > > > > touchscreens.
> > > > > > > > > > > > "Homeseer
Touch" is in beta at the moment, and
> I've
> > > > been
> > > > > > > > playing
> > > > > > > > > > > with it
> > > > > > > > > > > > for a couple of
months. It is pretty simple &
> > > > > > > straightforward,
> > > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > > integrates
seamlessly with Homeseer. It's still a
> > > bit
> > > > > rough
> > > > > > > > > around
> > > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > edges, but I
believe in time it will be an
> > extremely
> > > > > > capable
> > > > > > > > > > > system, and
> > > > > > > > > > > > almost a
no-brainer for anyone who already runs
> > > > > Homeseer.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Using this
combination of components I've been
> > > able to
> > > > > > > achieve
> > > > > > > > > some
> > > > > > > > > > > > additional
integration that actually isn't
> > > possible if
> > > > > any
> > > > > > > of
> > > > > > > > > them
> > > > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > > > > omitted. For
instance I can have CBUS buttons
> > > control
> > > > > SONOS
> > > > > > > > > zones
> > > > > > > > > > so
> > > > > > > > > > > > that my
"room off" button that I have on all my
> > CBUS
> > > > > > keypads
> > > > > > > > can
> > > > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > > stop the SONOS
zone playing in that room as well,
> > > which
> > > > > > > makes
> > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > > nicer overall
experience. This particular function
> > > uses
> > > > > > > > Homeseer
> > > > > > > > > to
> > > > > > > > > > > > bridge several
systems via their respective
> plugins
> > > > > > (signals
> > > > > > > > go:
> > > > > > > > > > > CBUS
> > > > > > > > > > > > --> Comfort
--> Homeseer --> SONOS)
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > If you'd like
any further info about my
> > experiences,
> > > > > then
> > > > > > > just
> > > > > > > > > > > holler.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > HTH
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Paul G.
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
-----Original Message-----
> > > > > > > > > > > > > From:
ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
> > > > > > > ]
> > > > > > > > > On
> > > > > > > > > > > Behalf
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Of Ben
McCormack
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: 04
January 2009 16:16
> > > > > > > > > > > > > To: UKHA
Group
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject:
[ukha_d] Home Automation Integration
> and
> > > > > > > touchscreen
> > > > > > > > > > > front
> > > > > > > > > > > > end
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > All
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > As I am
suer many of you are aware we have
> > > recently
> > > > > moved
> > > > > > > > > into a
> > > > > > > > > > > new
> > > > > > > > > > > > > house that
needs renovation. This has given me
> > the
> > > > > > > chance to
> > > > > > > > > > > automate
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the house.
I have tried to use best of breed in
> > > each
> > > > > area
> > > > > > > > > where
> > > > > > > > > > > > > possible
and integrate systems as well.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have
arrived at the following scheme
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Lighting :
Cbus
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Alarm :
Comfort
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Heating :
Smartfit
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Temp
Monitoing : 1-Wire using HA7Net. This is
> > > based
> > > > on
> > > > > > > recent
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
discussions.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > All the
media in the house will be supplied from
> > > my
> > > > > Mac
> > > > > > > Mini
> > > > > > > > > > > Server
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and Sonos.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > cbus and
Comfort are linked
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Comfort
and Smartfit are linked
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > So I have
Lighting, Heating and Alarm
> > > integrated. So
> > > > > far
> > > > > > > > > Comfort
> > > > > > > > > > > will
> > > > > > > > > > > > > be my main
interface so I can use Comfort
> > > keypads or
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > DECT
> > > > > > > > > > > phones
> > > > > > > > > > > > > in the
house to control things.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I have
added 1-Wire I am starting to think
> > how
> > > to
> > > > > > > > > integrate
> > > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > and make
intelligent decisions based on room
> > > > > temperature
> > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > also
> > > > > > > > > > > > > provide
temp logging and graphing.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > There is
one area that I don't think I have
> > worked
> > > > out
> > > > > > yet
> > > > > > > > and
> > > > > > > > > > > that is
> > > > > > > > > > > > > the
overall control mechanism. I guess ideally I
> > > > would
> > > > > > > like
> > > > > > > a
> > > > > > > > > > > couple
> > > > > > > > > > > > > of
wireless touch-screens that could display
> > > > > information
> > > > > > > > about
> > > > > > > > > > the
> > > > > > > > > > > > > house and
allow me to control various functions.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > I can see
that homeseer could be used as an
> > > > interface.
> > > > > It
> > > > > > > has
> > > > > > > > > > > plugins
> > > > > > > > > > > > > for most
of my components.
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Are there
any other options I could look at?
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Ben
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
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