Re: Pandora :-(

[Sean <thunderchilduk@xxxxxxxxx>]

Yeah I got it as well.

Looks like I might be going napster on sonos after all :(

Sean

On Jan 8, 2008 3:40 PM, Adrian Merwood <adrian@xxxxxxx> wrote:
> Yes, me 2,
>
> SWMBO will not be happy.  We listen from the Sonos.
>
> I am thinking about a custom route for the pandora servers via a VPN
> link to the USA - maybe I can setup a mutual arrangement with a US
> based DD-WRT using colleague.
>
> Any other thoughts on how to work around this?
>
> Adrian
>
>
> On 7 Jan 2008, at 23:26, Tim wrote:
>
> > Anyone else get this email from Pandora?
> >
> > :-(
> >
> > Tim.
> >
> > ---
> >
> > Quote:
> >
> > This is an email I hoped I would never have to send.
> >
> > As you probably know, in July of 2007 we had to block usage of
Pandora
> > outside the U.S. because of the lack of a viable license
structure for
> > Internet radio streaming in other countries. It was a terrible
day.
> > We did
> > however hold out some hope that a solution might exist for the
UK,
> > so we
> > left it unblocked as we worked diligently with the rights
> > organizations to
> > negotiate an economically workable license fee. After over a year
of
> > trying,
> > this has proved impossible. Both the PPL (which represents the
record
> > labels) and the MCPS/PRS Alliance (which represents music
> > publishers) have
> > demanded per track performance minima rates which are far too
high
> > to allow
> > ad supported radio to operate and so, hugely disappointing and
> > depressing to
> > us as it is, we have to block the last territory outside of the
US.
> >
> > Based upon the IP address from which you recently visited
Pandora, it
> > appears that you are listening from the UK. If you are, in fact,
> > listening
> > from the US, please contact Pandora Support:
pandora-support@xxxxxxx
> > .
> >
> > It continues to astound me and the rest of the team here that the
> > industry
> > is not working more constructively to support the growth of
services
> > that
> > introduce listeners to new music and that are totally supportive
of
> > paying
> > fair royalties to the creators of music. I don't often say such
> > things, but
> > the course being charted by the labels and publishers and their
> > representative organizations is nothing short of disastrous for
> > artists whom
> > they purport to represent - and by that I mean both well known
and
> > indie
> > artists. The only consequence of failing to support companies
like
> > Pandora
> > that are attempting to build a sustainable radio business for the
> > future
> > will be the continued explosion of piracy, the continued
> > constriction of
> > opportunities for working musicians, and a worsening drought of
new
> > music
> > for fans. As a former working musician myself, I find it very
> > troubling.
> >
> > We have been told to sign these totally unworkable license rates
or
> > switch
> > off, non-negotiable...so that is what we are doing. Streaming
> > illegally is
> > just not in our DNA, and we have to take the threats of legal
action
> > seriously. Lest you think this is solely an international
problem, you
> > should know that we are also fighting for our survival here in
the
> > US, in
> > the face of a crushing increase in web radio royalty rates, which
if
> > left
> > unchanged, would mean the end of Pandora.
> >
> > We know what an epicenter of musical creativity and fan support
the
> > UK has
> > always been, which makes the prospect of not being able to launch
> > there and
> > having to block our first listeners all the more upsetting for
us.
> >
> > We know there is a lot of support from listeners and artists in
the
> > UK for
> > Pandora and remain hopeful that at some point we'll get beyond
this.
> > We're
> > going to keep fighting for a fair and workable rate structure
that
> > will
> > allow us to bring Pandora back to you. We'll be sure to let you
know
> > if
> > Pandora becomes available in the UK. There may well come a day
when
> > we need
> > to make a direct appeal for your support to move for governmental
> > intervention as we have in the US. In the meantime, we have no
> > choice but to
> > turn off service to the UK.
> >
> > Pandora will stop streaming to the UK as of January 15th, 2008.
> >
> > Again, on behalf of all of us at Pandora, I'm very, very sorry.
> >
> > -Tim Westergren
> > (Pandora founder)
> >
> > End quote
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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> > Click here to report this message as spam.
>
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