RE: Re: [OT] iPod Headphones...

[Paul Gale <groups2@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Interesting link Phil - I'm wondering if a set of these would be good
when =
I'm out filming rather than the clunky Sennheiser headphones I currently
us=
e.

Paul.

> -----Original Message-----
> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On Behalf
> Of Phil Harris
> Sent: 28 December 2008 15:38
> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> Subject: RE: [ukha_d] Re: [OT] iPod Headphones...
>
> Yeah - if you Google for ER-6i reviews and you start reading the
forums
> then
> you'll find lots of people complaining about the bass response on the
> ER-6i's and saying "Yes but I have got them to seal
properly" but the
> simple
> fact is they haven't - I found the sponge tips much better than the
> flanged
> tips but it wasn't until I got the moulds that I really heard what the
> ER-6i's could do.
>
> The response on them is good enough that I was listening to some Yello
> this
> morning whilst doing a bit of marshalling and I was trying to think of
> what
> speakers I've come across that actually produce the solid bass that
the
> 6's
> do and there's not a lot!
>
> I've recently been looking at maybe getting a set of T2's (or possibly
> T1's
> if I can run to them) from www.hearingprotection.co.uk as they're
> supposed
> to be a significant step on again ...
>
> Phil
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> Behalf
> > Of rb_ziggy
> > Sent: 28 December 2008 10:16
> > To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
> > Subject: [ukha_d] Re: [OT] iPod Headphones...
> >
> > I have to agree about the iPod phones - absolutely sh1t.  I
always
> > found them very uncomfortable / painful and pretty poor audio
> quality.
> >
> > I moved to the ER6i's after being recommended by a friend who (I
know
> > this is a bit strange) is quite deaf and needs very high quality
gear
> > He uses the top end ER (=A3250 odd) to listen to his iPod.
> >
> > Anyway, I found the ER6i's very good but it did require playing
> around
> > with the various different ear pieces to find the ones that
really
> > fitted.  Only once properly fitted did they give decent base
> response.
> >
> > I can comfortably wear these for 8 - 10 hrs on transatlantic
flights
> > without any problem (often just have them in to reduce noise).
> >
> > Having switched to an iPhone recently, I noticed that ER also now
do
> a
> > headphone version.  Bit tempted by those.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Richard
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Phil Harris" <phil@...>
wrote:
> > >
> > > Just wanted to share a bit of info with you all in case it's
of
> use=85
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Some people think I'm a bit anal about things on occasions
=85 one
> > things has
> > > been trying to get decent sound out of my 160Gb iPod Classic
after
> I
> > finally
> > > succumbed to the appeal of Apple (no, I don't use that piece
of
> crap
> > iTunes
> > > though =96 I use XPlay3 to manage the content on it). My
issue with
> > the sound
> > > on the iPod has been that firstly the supplied `phones are a
> stunning
> > > combination of bad physical and bad audio design. The bloody
things
> > just
> > > wouldn't stay in my ears and they also sounded pants (plus
they
> > didn't have
> > > enough volume for my liking).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a much loved pair of Senheiser HD580s that sound
lovely but
> > the iPod
> > > just doesn't have the guts to drive properly and I've used
various
> > external
> > > portable headphone amplifiers feeding from the dock
connector
> > (bypassing the
> > > crappy headphone amplifier stages) to very good effect but
it's not
> > really a
> > > convenient solution as the `phones themselves make you look
like a
> > Cyberman
> > > and you end up with what is effectively a separates system
in your
> > pocket!
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I bought a set of Stax SR-001 portable electrostatic
headphones
> > which are
> > > less bulky and do sound stunning but you still have the
separate
> > energizer
> > > box for them which uses a set of batteries which don't last
long
> and
> > the
> > > thought of using them when it could start raining and you
have 580v
> > dc just
> > > millimetres from your eardrums just didn't sit well with me.
(OK =96
> > honestly
> > > the SR-001s are stunning and I still have them and use them
but the
> > separate
> > > energizer box is a pain and they look like the equivalent of
the
> > 1970's NHS
> > > glasses that someone you were at school with wore and which
were
> > always
> > > "repaired" with sellotape or elastoplast=85)
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyway, after talking to a couple of the guys at work about
the
> > "problem"
> > > and just about settling on a set of Grado SR-60 or SR-80
headphones
> > - the
> > > iPod drives these phones pretty well from its own amp
circuits and
> > the
> > > Grados do fold flat so they're semi portable-friendly =96
one of them
> > > mentioned the Etymotic Research ER-6i's which are an
in-the-ear
> > unit. Now,
> > > he really rated them and even though I *LOATHE* in the ear
phones I
> > did
> > > decide to give them a try. Anyway, yes, they were better
than I
> > expected but
> > > I still found them uncomfortable for all the same reasons
that I
> > find other
> > > in the ear phones uncomfortable and was just about to order
up the
> > Grados
> > > and pass the ER-6i's on to a friend when a came across this:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > http://www.customearphones.co.uk/about-er6c.php
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Custom earmoulds for the ER-6i's =85 not "cheap"
as such - =A385 for
> the
> > > earmoulds on top of about =A370 for the phones themselves
but I
> > thought it was
> > > probably worth a punt. I bought a voucher to get the moulds
done,
> > the guy
> > > from the audiologists turned up at my home one evening to
squirt
> > blue goop
> > > in my ears and a couple of weeks later the postman left me
an "Oi
> > you prick,
> > > you ordered some sh*t and then weren't around for us to
deliver it
> > so get
> > > off your arse and fetch it from us" card. I picked up
the package
> > from the
> > > post office at the sparrows fart on a Saturday morning just
as I
> was
> > about
> > > to set off on a five hour drive in the works company van,
popped
> the
> > ER-6i's
> > > into the moulds, applied a little bit of the supplied lube
(no
> dodgy
> > > comments guys) and slipped `em in to see how they felt and
how long
> > I could
> > > handle having them in for given that the longest I could
hack the
> > ER-6i's
> > > with the normal rubber flange type tips was about 30 minutes
before
> > they
> > > drove me nuts=85
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > =85five hours later I rolled up at the customers door,
popped out the
> > ER-6c's
> > > (as is the designation of the ER-6i's with the custom
moulds) and
> > thought
> > > "They were OK".
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Been using them pretty much every day since then and I have
to say
> > they're
> > > bloody fantastic =85 more than sensitive enough to get good
volume
> > from the
> > > standard iPod headphone amplifier circuitry and good enough
to
> > respond very
> > > well to being driven from one of the portable headphone amps
I have
> > or from
> > > one of the dedicated home headphone amps such as the one
that my
> > employers
> > > make. I've compared them to the Grado SR-60 and the
Senheiser HD-
> 580
> > of
> > > course but also to some much more expensive `phones from
Ultrasone
> > and they
> > > really do hold their own very well =85 the top end is a bit
splashy
> > compared
> > > to the high end Ultrasone units (but they were nearly a
grand) but
> > otherwise
> > > the ER-6c's are a phenomial bit of kit =96 they sound superb
and also
> > are
> > > *VERY* comfortable to wear for long periods of time (oh, and
they
> > also cut
> > > out a huge amount of outside noise too so they're brilliant
for use
> > on
> > > planes).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Anyway =96 hopefully that might be of use to someone here if
you're
> > looking
> > > for a damn good set of headphones=85
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Phil
> > >
> > >
> > >
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> > >
> >
> >
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