Re: dimmable CFL

[Chris Hunter <cjhunter@xxxxxxxxxxxx>]

 >trouble ...

Aye, can be a bit confusing / frustrating, sometimes  ...

>guest unfriendliness ...

aye, but 'think that'll be a problem anyway, to a degree, 'cos HA is=20=20
so unusual ... it's another reason I think we'll be having no light-=20
switches, etc ... at least, in the usual places ...

definitely agree multi-function anything is usually pretty awful ...=20=20
OTOH, good context sensitivity can be pretty useful ... as so often,=20=20
it depends on how its down, on the details ...

all part of the challenge, of course ...

the 'Mac was pretty good on this sort of thing ...

Chris


On 30 Sep 2007, at 14:00, Mal Lansell wrote:

> I'm having trouble following your messages - I think Yahoo is=20=20
> playing up
> because the one of your own that you quoted below hasn't shown up!
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> Anyway - I have to disagree that it's a bad example.  It's exactly the
> kind of thing I have in mind when I talk about "Guest
Unfriendliness"
> and having to explain things so they can be operated.
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> I have a similar situtation in my bathroom with X10 lights controlled
> via a micromodule and standard pull cord - because they fade up,=20=20
> people
> who don't notice pull the cord again which locks the brightness at the
> low level.  They then don't know how to get the lights back on at full
> brightness.  I really need to get it all replaced.
>
> Multifunction-anything is a pain (try turning on a shower in a
US=20=20
> hotel
> - I think they must have a competition for bizarre plumbing over
> there).  Interfaces should be simple and intuitive.
>
> Mal
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> Chris Hunter wrote:
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>> maybe 'should have added : switch once, as normal, to switch on
(at
>> previous brightness) & again to switch off ...
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>> only since you seem determined ... !
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> On 30 Sep 2007, at 11:00, Chris Hunter wrote:
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>>> good rule, bad example !
>>>
>>> (IMHO)
>>>
>>> the TLC description is as follows (abbreviated) :
>>>
>>> 20W BC ... VARILIGHT=AE Switch Dimmable EnergySaver+ Compact
>>> Fluorescent Lamp ... ground-breaking FlexDigitTM technology
...
>>> using a conventional light switch ... digital flicker-free
>>> regulation of brightness ... dimming range 2% - 100% ... full
>>> dimming & stable brightness, regardless of voltage
fluctuations ...
>>> resumes at previous light level ... excellent power factor ...
>>> diameter ... 48mm (max) ... length ... 142mm ... lifetime ...
>>> 15,000 hours ... Warm White ... equivalent to 100W lamp
>>>
>>> the memory & flicker-free & 2% & Warm White all
being very welcome !
>>>
>>> plus see the TLC datasheet (as per Stuart's link) ... which
says
>>> switch twice quickly to start dimmer going down & then up,
switch
>>> again to stop it where you want ... switch twice slowly to
bring on
>>> full ... not too bad, surely ?
>>>
>>> (IMHO)
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>> On 30 Sep 2007, at 10:47, Mal Lansell wrote:
>>>
>>>> That breaks #1 in my HA rulebook - "If you have to
explain how it
>>>> works,
>>>> it's not working".
>>>
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