Re: Re: dimmable CFL

[Rob Heyes <mh001b4520@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

Philips already make GU5.3 (MR16) dimmable LED spotlights in their
AccentLED series which apparently
work with traditional dimmers.  Still not found a UK source, but they're
around 35 Euro from
European suppliers.

--Rob

wywywywywywywywywywy wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Yes I am aware there are two kinds. But the Megaman one also claims to
> work with a normal dimmer switch, but in reality you need to flick the
> dimmer switch off and on. Notice that although the Varilight one says
> it will work with a normal dimmer switch, it doesn't say it will work
> in a traditional dimmer switch way.
>
> I am just being paranoid may be.
>
> And I totally agree with your LED statement. In the US there are
> already dimmable LED spotlight kits, but quite expensive at the moment
> (IIRC $60 for a bulb then $120 for the controller). No doubt it will
> be even more expensive when it gets here. That is until the Chinese
> manufacturers start to mass-produce them! :D
>
> Thanks,
> Wayne
>
>
>
> --- In ukha_d@xxxxxxx, "Neil Ball" <neilball@...>
wrote:
>> There are 2 versions of the Varilight unit, 1 that is dimmable
with
>> conventional leading edge dimmers and another that does the staged
> dimming
>> by flicking the switch which I am sure will soon will not have
much of a
>> future if the 1st type works well.
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>> I expect that LEDs will solve the GU10 issue in time,
manufacturers are
>> making significant steps forward in this area in relatively small
time
>> scales.
>>
>>
>>
>> Neil B.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>   _____
>>
>> From: ukha_d@xxxxxxx [mailto:ukha_d@xxxxxxx] On
> Behalf Of
>> wywywywywywywywywywy
>> Sent: 02 October 2007 16:49
>> To: ukha_d@xxxxxxx
>> Subject: [ukha_d] Re: dimmable CFL
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I have also been waiting for these since about 6 months ago.
>> And since last week they are finally available :D
>>
>> But do they REALLY work with a normal dimmer switch (and hence HA
>> systems) though?
>>
>> Because the Megaman one claims that it does, but in reality you
have
>> to flick it off and on, which isn't very good on a HA system. So I
am
>> hoping the Varilight one is not like the Megaman one.
>>
>> And I am not sure how long it will take to warm up either.
>>
>> Kinda wish they would bring out a GU10 version though! As 12 of
them
>> in the living room really do consume a lot of energy...
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Wayne
>>
>> --- In ukha_d@yahoogroups. <mailto:ukha_d%40yahoogroups.com>
com, Chris
>> Hunter <cjhunter@> wrote:
>>> great, thanks ... see they also do (are thinking about doing)
>>> something for standard linear fluorescent's ... which might
suit us
>>> even better ...
>>>
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 1 Oct 2007, at 10:56, jamie_whitehorn wrote:
>>>
>>>> These lights are made by Varilight and come in two forms.
The
> version
>>>> you've pointed at works form a normal switch and would, I
think, be
>>>> difficult to use with an HA system. The other version can
be used
>>>> with a
>>>> standard dimmer (http://tinyurl. <http://tinyurl.com/yt7vr2>
> com/yt7vr2
>> <http://tinyurl.
<http://tinyurl.com/yt7vr2>
com/yt7vr2>
>>>> ), and might be easier to use with an HA system just by
using a
> normal
>>>> dimmer component (eg Idratek SLD).
>>>>
>>>> The switch dimmable ones have been available for a while.
The
> dimmable
>>>> ones were supposed to be available in May and slipped and
> slipped and
>>>> slipped their shipping date. This doesn't really surprise
me as
>>>> making a
>>>> flourescent light dimmable from a normal dimmer switch is
a bit of a
>>>> technical challenge - normal dimmable flourescents require
a
> 240v feed
>>>> for the heaters. I've had one on order since May and
they've finally
>>>> said they are shipping them. I've also been talking to
Karam at
>>>> Idratek
>>>> about these and they've also got one on order to test with
an
> SLD, so
>>>> I'm waiting for the thumbs up before plugging into the
home Idratek
>>>> system (apparently if they don't work in a standard way
there is a
>>>> possiblity that it could have unexpected results on the
SLD). As
>>>> soon as
>>>> I get any feed back I'll post an update.
>>>>
>>>> HTH, Jamie
>>>
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